"From my testing" would probably work best, then.  If you think about it, we
all work in differing environments, with different equipment, do different
things, etc.  So, our results will never be the same.

Still haven't installed Maxthon yet.  The day is getting away from me.  BTW:
I had no idea that Maxthon is a Chinese-based piece of software.

-----Original Message-----
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 2:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Firefox 3.0 Download Day - TMP plugin?

Fair enough.  I generally find that IM*O is a really odd thing to add
to conversations when one is speaking from their own experience.  It
seems to me that the IM*O is implied since the context is clearly
personal.  I've quantified everything I've said as my own testing and
experience - but I apologize for not making that clearer.

Same with YMMV.  This all just strikes me as redundant, as if we are
all robots otherwise if we arent told that our experiences may differ.
 I'm well aware that everyone's mileage may vary.  And if it does,
whatever the conversation, I'd love to hear about it in rebuttal.

I guess there is were the suppressed nerd in me has a schizophrenic
encounter with my normal outward self.


On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Rod Trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tim makes a valid point, though, and it is this...
>
> You may need to think about putting the "IMO" or "IMHO" or even "from my
> testing" on things.  It'll go a long way to helping us understand that
> you're not making blanket statements.  I know I need to do better about
> that, too.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 12:10 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Firefox 3.0 Download Day - TMP plugin?
>
> Maybe I got the context of your silly comment mixed up.  My
> apologizes. I certainly don't want to put anything in your mouth.
>
> I said *IE7* sucks.  I have enjoyed previous versions of IE.
>
> It has become increasingly apparent that many people aren't aware of
> the memory issues and resulting oddities of IE7.  I thought as admins
> we strive for up-time and deferral of data/work loss.  Just because
> you haven't encountered an issue, doesn't mean that you wont, or that
> your users don't.  Information is good, right?
>
> I'm offering my personal experiences with a product that I have
> performed tests with.  I don't understand why people like you take it
> personally like I'm trying to tell you what to do.  I'm not.
>
> I never said it sucks for you or anyone else.  But ultimately, as
> product robustness goes, IE7 sucks - comparatively speaking (is that
> better for you?)
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Tim Vander Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> For the record I never called your tab use silly. Nice job of putting
> words in my mouth though. And your constant use of the phrase "IE sucks"
is
> not accurate. It may suck in your situation, but that doesn't mean it
sucks
> for everyone. Some of us have used it for many years with no issues what
so
> ever.
>> YMMV
>> Tim
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 10:53 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: Firefox 3.0 Download Day - TMP plugin?
>>
>> I haven't told anyone to do anything. I'm only highlighting issues
>> that people are neglecting or nay-saying.
>>
>> To call my use/reasons silly, is silly in itself.  You should gauge
>> and recommend products based on functionality and robustness. I
>> offered my example use as a reference to robustness.  If you want to
>> ignore that kind of data, then fine.  And when you finally reach a
>> point where IE7 stops cooperating - you might recall as to why.
>>
>> I would otherwise not engage in a browser-war discussion.
>>
>> OHHHH....   something I forgot!  Hahaha... This truly exemplifies why
>> IE7 sucks:  Its integration into the OS.  When you reach a memory
>> saturation point with IE7, explorer.exe-based functions will start to
>> stop working.  i.e. right click functionality in most any other
>> running app will stop working.  Some apps will fail to open documents
>> based on file-type associations.  There are a few other GUI oddities
>> that *will* occur as well, and will continue to occur until you reduce
>> the amount of memory that IE7 is using.
>>
>> IE6 with Maxthon tabs never does not have that issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Tim Vander Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>> But the fact is that you are an exception, not the rule. Very few people
> will ever have a legitimate need to have 50-100 tabs open at one time. I
do
> a lot of online research also, but I rarely have a need to go about 10
tabs.
> It happens but not often. I go to all types of sites and have never once
> been exploited using IE. I'm not saying that FF isn't a good product, it
is.
> I would never tell those who use it to change, but to tell someone to dump
> IE for FF because of the reasons you give would be bordering on silly.
>>
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