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On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 7:27 AM, RAY ZORZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  We're in the middle of it too.  Depending on your setup and size it could
> be a pain.
>
> Some things to think about are desktop profiles. Novell has desktop only,
> DLU, roaming profile, etc etc.
>
> Novell doesn't care about duplicate group names if they're in different
> sites, but MS does.
>
> Novell scripting has a lot of options about where you put them, all the way
> down to the person.
>
> You have to get the files and permissions moved over.  This may or not be
> that big a problem if you just set them up for EVERYONE access until you can
> "tweak" it correctly.  That's not an option for us, so we bought the Quest
> tools to help copy that over.
>
> Novell file system doesn't need shares and permissions.  And unless you use
> ABE, they'll see way more files on the MS side than they do in Novell.
>
> That's a few things I've seen so far.
>
>
>
> >>> "Eisenberg, Wayne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/3/2008 6:50 AM >>>
>
> I have done many of these as well. Mentioning Citrix, don't forget user
> accounts defined on your other application servers (databases, web,
> etc). Those sometimes turn into mini-projects of their own.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Wayne Eisenberg
> Server and PC Support Manager
> Pepsi Bottling Ventures, LLC
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:41 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Migration from Novell to Microsoft
>
> Done it before.  Doing it right now.  Two important things:  plan
> everything you can think of,  inform and instruct users.  You'll need to
> consider printing (big), workstation management (keeping Zenworking,
> moving to something else?) and so on.  Quest, as someone pointed out,
> has great tools.  I am using Quest tools and writing my own scripts to
> do desktop cleanup/profile moves.
>
> One thing I try to do when I migrate is to minimize impact on users.
> The Novell stuff goes away from the desktop, but when possible I try to
> keep mappings the same for home and department drives, since at many
> places staff know their data are on "the j: drive", for example, and if
> you don't keep that, staff will call and ask where the j: drive went.
>
> Novell has free the Identity Manager bundle:  you can install this on
> your Windows and Netware servers to synchronize user accounts.  The good
> thing about this is that since it also synchronizes passwords, if you
> have systems tied to Novell (Citrix for one like I do) and connect move
> them to AD until the migration is complete, users will never notice any
> change.
>
> You really do need a Netware/eDirectory person on your team.  And forget
> about the 0% downtime.  Even if you do it at night something will
> pop-up.
>
> Feel free to contact me off-list if you wish.
>
> Tom Miller
> Engineer, Information Technology
> Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
> 757-788-0528
> >>> "Jeffrey Showen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 07/02/08 7:43 PM >>>
> Stupid question time!
>
> One of our new contracts wants to migrate from Novell to Windows.  They
> already had AD setup when we won the contract and they want to keep what
> they have.  They have about 100 Novell servers and they want to migrate
> them all to Windows Server platforms - obviously without losing any data
> and without downtime.  I must admit I know nothing of Novell and
> mansgement is asking me how to accomplish the migration - great!  I
> always seem to end up as the meat in an idiot sandwich!  The good thing
> is that they are not in a big hurry so we have time to figure this out.
>
> Anybody migrated from Novell to Windows before?  Any advice or pointers
> in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Jeff
>
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