Yeah. It took that long for the major provider in Australia (Telstra,
IIRC) to figure out their routing problem, and there was a fiber cut
in the Atlantic at one point a few years ago that killed connection to
them for at least two days.

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:39 AM, David Mazzaccaro
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 3 days?!?!  Yikes!
> Sorry to hear that.  Sounds like a nightmare.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 1:30 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Remote Location AD Question
>
> High cost, and doesn't take care of link outages, which we've suffered
> for as much as 3 days at a time. We have engineering development staff
> in these offices as well.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:22 AM, David Mazzaccaro
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Citrix
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 12:28 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: Remote Location AD Question
>>
>> You must not have any overseas or other high-latency links to your
>> offices.
>>
>> One example will demonstrate what I mean:
>>
>> Using Windows Explorer to browse the US file server from either our AU
>> (40 people) or UK (20 people) offices, there are some directories -
>> fairly large one, but under 1k files in the directory - that take as
>> much as 30 minutes to paint the screen.
>>
>> Yes, we could mitigate some of that with a Riverbed or other caching
>> appliance, but those cost money too. We've chosen to mitigate it with
>> a Win2k TS server - we're hesitant about going to Win2k3 because of
>> cost for the CALs. I'll probably use our new SonicWal SSL VPN
>> appliance to mitigate some of this, by exporting shares over a web
>> interface - that should be much quicker to browse.
>>
>> Requiring all browsing to go through the US office would be insane,
>> and siting a DC/GC in each office is pretty much required, along with
>> an Exchange and file server.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:53 AM, David Mazzaccaro
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Everything goes over the wire, including internet access.  There are
>> no
>>> servers at the remote locations.
>>>
>>> As for IP addresses:
>>> Office1 = 192.168.50.0/24
>>> Office2 = 192.168.51.0/24
>>> Office3 = 192.168.53.0/24
>>> Etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 11:46 AM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: RE: Remote Location AD Question
>>>
>>> What do you guys use for IP assignment?  We have 3 remote offices,
>> each
>>> with less than 15 users, that I'd love to get to a point of not
> having
>> a
>>> DC there.  Do you have member server in place for files, etc?  Or do
>> you
>>> have everything going over the wire to your central site?
>>>
>>>
>>> Joe Heaton
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:32 AM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: Re: Remote Location AD Question
>>>
>>> You definitely want those workstations joined to the domain.  GPO for
>>> management, Anti-virus updates, patch management, reporting/inventory
>> of
>>> the systems, remoting in for troubleshooting etc.  Logon traffic for
>> 50
>>> workstations across a t1 is negligible as long as latency is low.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 9:14 AM, David Mazzaccaro
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> We don't use RDP, but rather ICA (Citrix) and it works great - all
>>>> their apps are available.
>>>> As for locking down - we use GPOs rather than locking them down
>>>> individually.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:53 AM
>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>> Subject: RE: Remote Location AD Question
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, I guess I won't worry about it for now.  It's just a
> shipping
>>>> warehouse at the moment and I'll be ok as long as they don't decide
>> to
>>>
>>>> put office staff at the location.
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 8:37 AM
>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>> Subject: RE: Remote Location AD Question
>>>>
>>>> I have a remote location w/ 30 workstations and IP phones, no remote
>>>> DC, connected over a MPLS VPN T1 circuit.
>>>>
>>>> Works great! Less filling!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>>
>>>> From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:23 AM
>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>> Subject: Remote Location AD Question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How many member workstations would you put at a remote location
>>>> connected with a Site to Site VPN over a T-1 without a local DC?
>> Only
>>>
>>>> other traffic on the line will be an IP phone, random print jobs and
>>>> RDP sessions from remote workstations.  What I'm thinking is since
>>>> these remote workstations will run everything over their RDP
> sessions
>>>> I shouldn't even bother making them domain members.  Just lock them
>>> down and only allow them access to RDP.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Niles
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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