Wow. Definitely not our experience. Sorry to hear that.

Of course, we don't have clustered anything.

BTW, just in case you're not aware of it, there's a TSM listserv - I'm
not at work at the moment, but remind me tomorrow, and I'll shoot you
the address if you want. There's some really good folks on that list.
I think you'll find they're quite helpful.

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Steven Peck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Umm.. NO, it is not.  It sucks.
>
> It does do what it's supposed to eventually, but frankly getting it to
> do it right or applying the inevitable client upgrades is always a
> challenge.  When something isn't working right the logs/alerts fail to
> properly identify the problem, the answers from support can be vague,
> unhelpful and downright random at times.  (Asking for support on an
> Exchange cluster results in documentation for a SQL cluster, requests
> and finally demands to get the right documentation resulted in the
> Exchange docs (and a non-Tivoli link) and the comment that running SQL
> and Exchange on the same box wasn't recommended but we could try it
> and let them know.  Argggg!
>
> A dedicated backup team, over 1,000 Windows servers and a few hundred
> Unix flavors and a mainframe environment or two.  I really do not like
> the product at all.
>
> Steven Peck
> http://www.blkmtn.org
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Kurt Buff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> That depends on your environment. For a large shop, with staff large
>> enough so that several are dedicated specifically to
>> backup/restore/DR/BC/etc., TSM is probably an excellent fit.
>>
>> It's much too large and complex for shops of lesser capability, IMHO -
>> yet, we use it, and get by with it, and have for about 8 years - it
>> predates my tenure in this position.
>>
>> I respect the software, but would switch in a heartbeat, except for two 
>> things:
>>
>> 1) the cost to continue using is is ridiculously low - maintenance is
>> something like $200/year for the 10 or so servers we use it for - that
>> makes the cost of switching to something else much less attractive.
>>
>> 2) Support is actually pretty good - we've called many times, asking
>> for bits of information, and have gotten answers in a reasonable
>> amount of time, with no attitude.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Rod Trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> "that product is a major PIA to administer"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And, the fact that that has held true for over 15 years and has never
>>> improved is sad testament to the product.  Tivoli was created for the
>>> consulting industry – not for the regular Admin.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Eric Woodford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 6:10 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: Re: WMI Query
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> FYI:
>>>
>>> "Wscript.echo" is a command to echo (or display) the information that comes
>>> after it.
>>>
>>> I think you more want to do an IF statement.
>>>
>>> If objItem.Name = "Tivoli Storage Manager" then
>>>    ' echo the contents to the screen
>>> end if
>>>
>>>
>>> BTW, Sorry about Tivoli, that product is a major PIA to administer.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> That's closer.  Trying to query to see if TSM is installed. Can I just add
>>>
>>> Wscript.Echo "GroupName: " Tivoli Storage Manager
>>>
>>> To see if TSM is installed?
>>>
>>>
>>> Original Message:
>>> -----------------
>>> From: Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 17:18:19 -0400
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: RE: WMI Query
>>>
>>> Eh, you probably mean something like this:
>>>
>>> On Error Resume Next
>>> strComputers = Array ("Server1", "Server2", "Server3")
>>> For i = LBound (strComputers) To UBound(strComputers)
>>>        strcomputer = strcomputers[i]
>>>
>>>        Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:\\" & strComputer &
>>> "\root\cimv2")
>>>        Set colItems = objWMIService.ExecQuery("Select * from
>>> Win32_ProgramGroup",,48)
>>>        For Each objItem in colItems
>>>            Wscript.Echo "Caption: " & objItem.Caption
>>>            Wscript.Echo "Description: " & objItem.Description
>>>            Wscript.Echo "GroupName: " & objItem.GroupName
>>>            Wscript.Echo "Name: TSM & objItem.Name
>>>            Wscript.Echo "SettingID: " & objItem.SettingID
>>>            Wscript.Echo "UserName: " & objItem.UserName
>>>        Next
>>>
>>>        set colItems = Nothing
>>>        set objWMIService = Nothing
>>> Next
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Michael B. Smith
>>> MCITP:EM/MCSE/Exchange MVP
>>> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 5:12 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: WMI Query
>>>
>>> Looking for help with WMI query for an application (TSM).
>>>
>>> On Error Resume Next
>>> strComputer = "Server1
>>>               Server2
>>>               Server3"
>>> Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:\\" & strComputer & "\root\cimv2")
>>> Set colItems = objWMIService.ExecQuery("Select * from
>>> Win32_ProgramGroup",,48)
>>> For Each objItem in colItems
>>>    Wscript.Echo "Caption: " & objItem.Caption
>>>    Wscript.Echo "Description: " & objItem.Description
>>>    Wscript.Echo "GroupName: " & objItem.GroupName
>>>    Wscript.Echo "Name: TSM & objItem.Name
>>>    Wscript.Echo "SettingID: " & objItem.SettingID
>>>    Wscript.Echo "UserName: " & objItem.UserName
>>> Next
>>>
>>> Can anyone help?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
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