>From the docs, I think their clustering solutions are less then optimal and are a hodgepodge of 'ya it works if you do 30 line install' but their docs are pretty much only for active/passive clusters. Not three or four server clusters.
I imagine our dedicated storage team is on such lists. I stay as far as possible. Unfortunately some times yo have to interact with the backup systems. Steven On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Kurt Buff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wow. Definitely not our experience. Sorry to hear that. > > Of course, we don't have clustered anything. > > BTW, just in case you're not aware of it, there's a TSM listserv - I'm > not at work at the moment, but remind me tomorrow, and I'll shoot you > the address if you want. There's some really good folks on that list. > I think you'll find they're quite helpful. > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Steven Peck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Umm.. NO, it is not. It sucks. >> >> It does do what it's supposed to eventually, but frankly getting it to >> do it right or applying the inevitable client upgrades is always a >> challenge. When something isn't working right the logs/alerts fail to >> properly identify the problem, the answers from support can be vague, >> unhelpful and downright random at times. (Asking for support on an >> Exchange cluster results in documentation for a SQL cluster, requests >> and finally demands to get the right documentation resulted in the >> Exchange docs (and a non-Tivoli link) and the comment that running SQL >> and Exchange on the same box wasn't recommended but we could try it >> and let them know. Argggg! >> >> A dedicated backup team, over 1,000 Windows servers and a few hundred >> Unix flavors and a mainframe environment or two. I really do not like >> the product at all. >> >> Steven Peck >> http://www.blkmtn.org >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Kurt Buff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> That depends on your environment. For a large shop, with staff large >>> enough so that several are dedicated specifically to >>> backup/restore/DR/BC/etc., TSM is probably an excellent fit. >>> >>> It's much too large and complex for shops of lesser capability, IMHO - >>> yet, we use it, and get by with it, and have for about 8 years - it >>> predates my tenure in this position. >>> >>> I respect the software, but would switch in a heartbeat, except for two >>> things: >>> >>> 1) the cost to continue using is is ridiculously low - maintenance is >>> something like $200/year for the 10 or so servers we use it for - that >>> makes the cost of switching to something else much less attractive. >>> >>> 2) Support is actually pretty good - we've called many times, asking >>> for bits of information, and have gotten answers in a reasonable >>> amount of time, with no attitude. >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Rod Trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> "that product is a major PIA to administer" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> And, the fact that that has held true for over 15 years and has never >>>> improved is sad testament to the product. Tivoli was created for the >>>> consulting industry – not for the regular Admin. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Eric Woodford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 6:10 PM >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>> Subject: Re: WMI Query >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> FYI: >>>> >>>> "Wscript.echo" is a command to echo (or display) the information that comes >>>> after it. >>>> >>>> I think you more want to do an IF statement. >>>> >>>> If objItem.Name = "Tivoli Storage Manager" then >>>> ' echo the contents to the screen >>>> end if >>>> >>>> >>>> BTW, Sorry about Tivoli, that product is a major PIA to administer. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> That's closer. Trying to query to see if TSM is installed. Can I just add >>>> >>>> Wscript.Echo "GroupName: " Tivoli Storage Manager >>>> >>>> To see if TSM is installed? >>>> >>>> >>>> Original Message: >>>> ----------------- >>>> From: Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 17:18:19 -0400 >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: RE: WMI Query >>>> >>>> Eh, you probably mean something like this: >>>> >>>> On Error Resume Next >>>> strComputers = Array ("Server1", "Server2", "Server3") >>>> For i = LBound (strComputers) To UBound(strComputers) >>>> strcomputer = strcomputers[i] >>>> >>>> Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:\\" & strComputer & >>>> "\root\cimv2") >>>> Set colItems = objWMIService.ExecQuery("Select * from >>>> Win32_ProgramGroup",,48) >>>> For Each objItem in colItems >>>> Wscript.Echo "Caption: " & objItem.Caption >>>> Wscript.Echo "Description: " & objItem.Description >>>> Wscript.Echo "GroupName: " & objItem.GroupName >>>> Wscript.Echo "Name: TSM & objItem.Name >>>> Wscript.Echo "SettingID: " & objItem.SettingID >>>> Wscript.Echo "UserName: " & objItem.UserName >>>> Next >>>> >>>> set colItems = Nothing >>>> set objWMIService = Nothing >>>> Next >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Michael B. Smith >>>> MCITP:EM/MCSE/Exchange MVP >>>> http://TheEssentialExchange.com >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 5:12 PM >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>> Subject: WMI Query >>>> >>>> Looking for help with WMI query for an application (TSM). >>>> >>>> On Error Resume Next >>>> strComputer = "Server1 >>>> Server2 >>>> Server3" >>>> Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:\\" & strComputer & "\root\cimv2") >>>> Set colItems = objWMIService.ExecQuery("Select * from >>>> Win32_ProgramGroup",,48) >>>> For Each objItem in colItems >>>> Wscript.Echo "Caption: " & objItem.Caption >>>> Wscript.Echo "Description: " & objItem.Description >>>> Wscript.Echo "GroupName: " & objItem.GroupName >>>> Wscript.Echo "Name: TSM & objItem.Name >>>> Wscript.Echo "SettingID: " & objItem.SettingID >>>> Wscript.Echo "UserName: " & objItem.UserName >>>> Next >>>> >>>> Can anyone help? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> mail2web LIVE - Free email based on MicrosoftR Exchange technology - >>>> http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ >>>> ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ >>>> >>>> >>>> ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ >>>> ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> mail2web - Check your email from the web at >>>> http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web >>>> >>>> >>>> ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ >>>> ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ >>> ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ >>> >> >> ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ >> ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ >> > > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~
