Can I start by just saying ARRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

 

Thanks

 

We decided to upgrade our WSS 3 box to MOSS2007 on Thursday. We went
through all the docs before hand, got a copy of the backups (we run full
backups nightly using STSADM and also get backup of the AAM  and the
Metabase). As is the way, the install went badly. After 24 hours of us
trying to coax the configuration tool to tell us what useraccount it was
referring to when it said "invalid user account" we called PSS. That's
when the fun really started. We've been assigned a PSS member who's
English is poor and their accent is so strong that we've given up asking
them to repeat themselves and have just asked them email everything to
us, which means things are taking ages. The configuration tool failed to
complete at all, even with PSS talking to it, so we started down the
route of uninstalling MOSS/WSS and then starting again. Guess
what?...you can't uninstall MOSS/WSS unless the configuration tool has
completed successfully!! Which is nice, and the 'official' manual
uninstall guidelines from MS require that you remove it from add/remove,
which you can't.

 

So, after stepping in to the dark, this time with a chap who can speak
English and was happy to sit and chat, we've manually removed MOSS and
are starting again. And this is really where my question comes in.

 

When using WSS3 in standalone mode (ie just one box running WSS without
SQL server installed), does the "STSADM -o backup ..." command
constitute a full backup? We thought it did, and have checked the docs
which also imply it does. However the PSS chap (now back the non-english
speaker) seems to think that we would also need an SQL backup. This in
itself is odd, as the standalone install of WSS3 appears to use Windows
Internal Database (ie SQL Server 2005 compact or embedded). This doesn't
have any management tools with it, and there's no clear indication that
it's meant to be managed outside of the app thats written to use it. 

 

I'm losing the will to live, and am apparently paying good money for
someone to email me links and to confuse us even more than we are able
to do ourselves. 

 

Rant over :S

 

Olly


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