And when there is a labor dispute, the head of the union will tell it's members to participate in a mass resignation campaign to show up the employer.
Hmm... baseball umpires of 1999? ;-) -----Original Message----- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 8:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: After-hours work +1 on the floor mat comment. What does a union get me? Oh yeah, union dues... Dave Lum -----Original Message----- From: Fogarty, Richard R Mr CTR USA USASOC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 8:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: After-hours work " I think it is time for IT based Unions..." That, or you find a new job.... Remember, you have to lie down to be a door mat.... -----Original Message----- From: Nikki Peterson - OETX [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: After-hours work Currently I am classified as “Exempt”. Description of “Exempt” as understood by my manager is as follows: - Pay based on 2 weeks - 1 week every month I am on-call 24/7 - 2nd Saturday after Patch Tuesday, I am here to patch our servers and any extra maint for 8 hours - On average, I work at least a 1 over every day. - If I have a Dr. appointment or need to leave a bit early, I am forced to use my PTO (vacation) - FMLA (sick time) only if I am sick for 3+ days, and I need a Dr. note. Example of my time card: - 89 hours worked during the regular days - 5 hours worked for Patching/Maint Saturday - 2 hours PTO charged against me (had to leave early for family emergency) - On call o My paycheck shows: 78 hours Regular Pay 16 hours No-Pay (these are the extra stuff) 2 hours deducted for PTO No mention of on call This is totally up to my management. Some of the guys in Telecom have a great boss, he lets them leave early if an emergency happens and he will not reflect it on their time cards. He knows they work hard and long and the County gets much more than they pay for. We are 4 positions down and unable to fill them at the price we offer. I have been doing 2 desks now for the last year and a half. Instead of receiving praise for keeping up and hanging in there. I have a boss that comes in from a meeting, announcing to everyone that “No one leaves until the whatever he just promised in his last meeting is done. My boss is a self-serving jerk. He takes time with the blessing of his boss, but then insists that he must follow the rules for us to be fair. The biggest problem is that he will give a break to the one fellow he drinks with. I think it is time for IT based Unions... This used to be fun but now it sucks. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 6:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: After-hours work I think it all depends. I am well compensated and don't mind doing on call rotation. Fortunately we don't get to many calls in the evenings and weekends. When I worked for a consulting company after 5 and weekends was time and half. Mike Original Message: ----------------- From: David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 06:04:55 -0700 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: After-hours work For my full-time day gig, we (err, they) get compensated ~$200 for the week they carry the pager. It's not quite #2 because you do get more pay if your on-call time includes a holiday, for example. It is a very fair system IMO. As a consultant I include monitoring as part of my support, but there's no additional fee unless I need to go onsite at which time I charge 150% of my normal onsite rate - in my contracts it's "Emergency onsite support". None of my clients require 24x7 so I am never woke up by the monitoring systems. Alerting consists of text messages going to my phone which does not beep when a message comes in. At my last day job it was #1. Dave From: Durf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 8:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: After-hours work Hey all, Taking a little informal poll about compensation for after hours / weekend works. This is mostly geared at consultants, so if you're an onsite IT guy, please indicate. ---- If you work after-hours on-call, or are expected to carry the beeper, how are you compensated? 1. None, just man up and be an IT cowboy and glad you have a job. 2. Flat fee for being on-call. 3. Overtime or time-and-a-half bonus for hours actually worked. 4. Straight hourly at my normal rate 5. Flex time - no extra compentation, but I come in late the next day / take a day off later in the week. Thanks all. Yes, I'm on the beeper this weekend (OK, there's no actual beeper) so it's on my mind. :) -- Durf -- -------------- Give a man a fish, and he'll eat for a day. 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