Agreed I fall under 1,2,4, and 5 at this point. Jon
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Nikki Peterson - OETX < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Easier said than done, I can think of many reasons for remaining at a > place of work that is unappreciative and close to hostile: > > > > - Age, close to retirement > > - Family, sole supporter for family > > - Loyalty (shows my age) > > - Medical necessity, again in support of pre-diagnosed family > member > > - Bad economy > > > > I am sure there are many other reasons. The "Just leave", attitude is what > got us all in this predicament. > > > > I believe the IT community is a fairly new profession that needs to > reassessed for the reasons pointed out by us all: > > > > - We have the knowledge that no one else has > > - We are neither white collar, nor blue collar > > - We are expected to remain up-to-date with technology, but > provided little time on the job to do so. > > > > I have never been a union type person, however the "Powers in charge" do > not fully understand nor appreciate all that we do to provide them the > "Seamless… " J experience. I can't tell you how many times someone has > come to me for help, received it, then commented how easy my job was. They > do not see the hours spent "surfing the net" and analyzing, and concluding. > They only see that I fixed it in a few clicks. Very discouraging. > > > > I do believe for the sake of IT Professionals everywhere, there needs to be > an organized solution. It will not happen magically nor because my "boss"or > "company" is a good guy. Bottom line, if they can, they will. > > > > Nikki > > > > *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Monday, August 18, 2008 8:35 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: After-hours work > > > > Or be knocked/pushed down. > > > > Jon > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Fogarty, Richard R Mr CTR USA USASOC < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > " I think it is time for IT based Unions..." > > That, or you find a new job.... > > Remember, you have to lie down to be a door mat.... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nikki Peterson - OETX [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:42 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: After-hours work > > Currently I am classified as "Exempt". Description of "Exempt" as > understood by my manager is as follows: > - Pay based on 2 weeks > - 1 week every month I am on-call 24/7 > - 2nd Saturday after Patch Tuesday, I am here to patch our servers > and any extra maint for 8 hours > - On average, I work at least a 1 over every day. > - If I have a Dr. appointment or need to leave a bit early, I am > forced to use my PTO (vacation) > - FMLA (sick time) only if I am sick for 3+ days, and I need a Dr. > note. > > Example of my time card: > - 89 hours worked during the regular days > - 5 hours worked for Patching/Maint Saturday > - 2 hours PTO charged against me (had to leave early for family > emergency) > - On call > o My paycheck shows: > § 78 hours Regular Pay > § 16 hours No-Pay (these are the extra stuff) > § 2 hours deducted for PTO > § No mention of on call > > This is totally up to my management. Some of the guys in Telecom have a > great boss, he lets them leave early if an emergency happens and he will not > reflect it on their time cards. He knows they work hard and long and the > County gets much more than they pay for. > > We are 4 positions down and unable to fill them at the price we offer. I > have been doing 2 desks now for the last year and a half. > > Instead of receiving praise for keeping up and hanging in there. I have a > boss that comes in from a meeting, announcing to everyone that "No one > leaves until the whatever he just promised in his last meeting is done. My > boss is a self-serving jerk. He takes time with the blessing of his boss, > but then insists that he must follow the rules for us to be fair. The > biggest problem is that he will give a break to the one fellow he drinks > with. > > I think it is time for IT based Unions... > > This used to be fun but now it sucks. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 6:30 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: After-hours work > > I think it all depends. I am well compensated and don't mind doing on call > rotation. Fortunately we don't get to many calls in the evenings and > weekends. When I worked for a consulting company after 5 and weekends was > time and half. > > Mike > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 06:04:55 -0700 > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: After-hours work > > > For my full-time day gig, we (err, they) get compensated ~$200 for the week > they carry the pager. It's not quite #2 because you do get more pay if your > on-call time includes a holiday, for example. It is a very fair system IMO. > > As a consultant I include monitoring as part of my support, but there's no > additional fee unless I need to go onsite at which time I charge 150% of my > normal onsite rate - in my contracts it's "Emergency onsite support". None > of my clients require 24x7 so I am never woke up by the monitoring systems. > Alerting consists of text messages going to my phone which does not beep > when a message comes in. > > At my last day job it was #1. > > Dave > > From: Durf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 8:07 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: After-hours work > > Hey all, > > Taking a little informal poll about compensation for after hours / weekend > works. This is mostly geared at consultants, so if you're an onsite IT > guy, please indicate. > > ---- > If you work after-hours on-call, or are expected to carry the beeper, how > are you compensated? > > 1. None, just man up and be an IT cowboy and glad you have a job. > 2. Flat fee for being on-call. > 3. Overtime or time-and-a-half bonus for hours actually worked. > 4. Straight hourly at my normal rate > 5. Flex time - no extra compentation, but I come in late the next day / > take a day off later in the week. > > Thanks all. 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