I too thank you.  I did use the correct time setting for what I was looking
to do, as this is the forest/domain pDCe.  Do you happen to know the KB
where Microsoft has documented the way to turn on the time auditing for
Windows 2008?  Since I will be bringing up a 2008 pDCe sometime in the
future I would like to have the auditing turned on for that machine as I do
now for the current pDCe.  All I can find at this time is the KB for turning
it on for a 2003 machine will that work?

Jon

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hmm, fully complaint but not actually the full spec.  LOL, that sure
> does sound like MS.  ;-)  But SNTP or NTP - it syncs the time just
> fine to my routers, and thats all that matters to me.
>
> Many thanks for digging this info up. Very much appreciated.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Free, Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Is this true?  Last I had heard, Windows was still using the SNTP
> > subset
> >
> > It is (sort of) for backwards compatibility but it is based on NTP so it
> > depends on what you mean by "true" :-)
> >
> > I have a message from the MS Windows Time PM back in 2005 where he
> > publically stated:
> >
> > "I own the time service for Windows, so I can field the OS question. The
> > NTP server in Windows 2003 is NTP V3 RFC compliant"
> >
> > In another conversation where some of us were questioning conflicting MS
> > documentation on w32time's protocol change from SNTP to NTP in W2K3 he
> > said-
> >
> > "Regarding the Doc, it's obviously wrong (I'll get it fixed). The
> > W32time server service in 2000 was SNTP, and 2003 its NTP."
> >
> > Is W32time a 100% full-blown NTP implementation like you would see on
> > *NIX, no.
> >
> >
> > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc772694.aspx
> >
> > The Windows Time service uses the Network Time Protocol (NTP) to help
> > synchronize time across a network. NTP is an Internet time protocol that
> > includes the discipline algorithms necessary for synchronizing clocks.
> > NTP is a more accurate time protocol than the Simple Network Time
> > Protocol (SNTP) that is used in some versions of Windows; however
> > W32Time continues to support SNTP to enable backward compatibility with
> > computers running SNTP-based time services, such as Windows 2000.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:17 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Which is the better way
> >
> > Is this true?  Last I had heard, Windows was still using the SNTP
> > subset functionality of NTP - and not fully adhering to the NTP
> > standard.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Troy Meyer
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Ok how about some actual answers :)
> >>
> >> NTP versus SNTP
> >>
> >> If you are running *nix time servers, NTP is a standard and works more
> > consistently.
> >>
> >> http://blogs.technet.com/industry_insiders/pages/w32-tm-service.aspx
> >>
> >>
> >> -troy
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 8:32 AM
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: RE: Which is the better way
> >>
> >> Still begs the same question, why use net time on anything newer than
> > a wintendo? W2K's w32time works just fine. It was the first time we
> > actually had a decent native time service with registry based
> > configuration and a management interface. That said, regardless of its
> > quirks, even in the NT era the old timeserv was a quantum leap above net
> > time when you didn't have AD's hierarchical structure  and kerberos time
> > requirements.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:28 AM
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: Re: Which is the better way
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sorry to say this but I got use to it when doing Win 2000 machines.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jon
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Ken Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> ?!?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Why would you use net time is a better question...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Ken
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2008 10:10 PM
> >>
> >>
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: Which is the better way
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Never mind just a differnet way to skin the cat.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jon
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Jon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> You don't use Net Time to do your synchronization?  Why not?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jon
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 7:53 AM, Ziots, Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>        W32tm /config /syncfromflags:DOMHIER
> >>
> >>        W32tm /config /update
> >>
> >>        W32tm /resync /rediscover.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>        Z
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>        Edward E. Ziots
> >>
> >>        Network Engineer
> >>
> >>        Lifespan Organization
> >>
> >>        MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
> >>
> >>        Phone: 401-639-3505
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >>
> >>        From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>        Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:52 AM
> >>        To: NT System Admin Issues
> >>        Subject: Which is the better way
> >>
> >>
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