Then you must have missed the bad definitions NOD put out a few months ago.
Freaking thing started quarantining all our DOCX documents and then would
not release them from quarantine without first sending a copy to Eset.  Try
explaining something like that to researchers working on patentable
projects!  That is one of the reasons why I am looking at moving.  I will
add that the support Sunbelt has for all their products goes way beyond
almost all the other companies.

Jon

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Stefan Jafs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Actually, I have 200+ PC and I gotten a very attractive quote from
> Sunbelt, I also have the 30 Day 5 user Vipre installed and running. However
> right now the extra few $$K is not worth it if I have to go around to 200
> PC' and fix a bad update! NOD 32 works very well in my environment, ones you
> get used to the console is not so bad, I only had to call tech support ones
> this year, it was not an urgent matter but it did take some time to resolve.
>
>
>
> If I only had 10 – 25 PC' it would be a no-brainer! I would switch to Vipre
> right now.  I think Vipre is an excellent product but not mature enough for
> the enterprise, only my humble opinion.
>
> BTW I'm using Ninja on my mail server and I'm very happy with it.
>
>
>
> *___________________________________*
>
> *Stefan Jafs*
>
>
>
> *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:42 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE
>
>
>
> Any, how many PC's?
>
>
>
> *___________________________________*
>
> *Stefan Jafs*
>
>
>
> *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:33 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE
>
>
>
> IMO only, ESET has really gone downhill in the last year.  I too, was a
> huge ESET fan, however, support tanked, the response times got unbearable
> (hours turned into days), the new version sucked donkey balls and  I was
> never a fan of the console.  For me, VIPRE was a no brainer mainly on price
> and an additional point of consolidation; i.e., migrating from NOD32 + CSE
> to VIPRE.  NOD32 is a decent product as (someone check me on this) they are
> the oldest player in this space.  The time was just right for me and I was
> able to sign a three year deal with the Clearwater crew for less than a
> FREAKIN' RENEWAL of NOD32.  ESET was the stuff 18 months ago but I think
> they got lazy.  Shookie's opinion only and YMMV
>
>
>
> Love to all,
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> *From:* Axcess Internet (Listserv) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:16 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE
>
>
>
> John:
>
>
>
> I know what you mean, we switched to ESET because of all the "promotion" it
> was getting here; as my contract is up at the end of the new year, I am
> wondering if I should switch as well.  I can honestly say I have been happy
> with ESET.
>
>
>
> Just my .02 worth.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> *From:* Kelsey, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:54
> *To:* ML: NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE
>
>
>
> Boy I remember not too long ago ESET was all the rage on this list.  I
> can't recall anybody having anything negative to say about them.  Now it
> sounds like everybody is jumping ship!
>
>
>
>
>
> *******************************
> *John C. Kelsey**
> *DuBois Regional Medical Center
> (:  814.375.3073
> *:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *******************************
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2008 15:47
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE
>
> Lol, ESET should buy a copy and learn a few things. So far I am very happy
> switching away from ESET, Vipre answered every deficiency I had with ESET.
> jlc
>
>
>
> *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:22 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE
>
>
>
> Interesting, I told ESET that I'm considering switching to Vipre, they
> don't even consider Sunbelt a competitor, they only compare themselves to
> Trend, Symantec, Sophos, etc..
>
> If Vipre was a bit more mature I would definitely switch but reading about
> the latest definition issue, I probably have to stay with ESET for now
> (against my want).
>
>
>
> *___________________________________*
>
> *Stefan Jafs*
>
>
>
> *From:* Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:26 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE
>
>
>
> Fwiw, there are a LOT of fixes and enhancements in the new agent being
> released in several weeks.
>
>
>
> Alex
>
> Alex Eckelberry, CEO
> Sunbelt Software, Inc.
> 33 N. Garden Avenue, Clearwater, FL 33755
> 727.562.0101 x220
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.sunbeltsoftware.com
> www.sunbeltblog.com
>
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Jonathan Gruber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:58 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE
>
> I had/have this issue also. Only happens to me when sending email with
> attachments. I've also noticed a real slow-down when selecting many messages
> (read over 200) to delete. I'd be interested in what they say.
>
>
>
> Jonathan Gruber
>
> Network Administrator
>
> J.B. Long Inc.
>
> 610-944-8840  x.213
>
> 484-637-1978  direct
>
>
>
> *From:* Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:06 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE
>
>
>
> I had the same issue but didn't relate it to be a Viper issue. I wrote
> Sunbelt about this and will let you know.
>
>
>
>
>
> Phil Thompson
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:56 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE
>
>
>
> Yes.
>
>
>
> *Paul Chinnery*
> *Network Administrator*
> *Memorial Medical Center*
> *231-845-2319*
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:42 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE
>
>  Is that the error when sending and email?
>
>
>
>
>
> Phil Thompson
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:38 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE
>
>
>
> He kept getting the "Operation Failed" error.
>
>
>
> *Paul Chinnery*
> *Network Administrator*
> *Memorial Medical Center*
> *231-845-2319*
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:32 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE
>
>  I'm curious - what sort of trouble? I'm running the consumer version of
> Vipre on a Vista laptop with OL2007...
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:19 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE
>
>  Our Sys Admin has O2007 installed and it was causing him trouble.  As I
> already have 2 layers of a/v defense with email, I just turned off Emaili
> protection.
>
>
>
> *Paul Chinnery*
> *Network Administrator*
> *Memorial Medical Center*
> *231-845-2319*
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:33 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE
>
>  Nope no regrets, the "bad me" was more about not doing a thorough due
> diligence before moving them to Vipre – hadn't occurred to me to see if
> Trend had upgraded their product before shopping elsewhere is all. The Vipre
> move saved my clients money even if you factor in the new install and
> learning curve, and it works fine.
>
>
>
> As stated earlier… on one client I cranked up full paranoia mode and it
> nuked Outlook (Sunbelt didn't have that particular version of the
> outlook.exe on file yet) so be sure to test settings changes on a small
> group first J.
>
>
>
> Also as Phil said, Sunbelt's support is great, and on the Vipre list
> there's a couple guys who seem to know the product almost as well as
> Sunbelt.
>
> *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER
> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
> (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764
>
>
>
> *From:* Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:16 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE
>
>
>
> So are you saying you regret moving to Vipre?
>
>
>
> *Paul Chinnery*
> *Network Administrator*
> *Memorial Medical Center*
> *231-845-2319*
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:06 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE
>
>  As someone else said, load it up on a server and some systems (VM's
> maybe?) and subscribe to the Vipre Enterprise list. As you said, since NOD32
> Is working well I think you'd just need to get a feel for what you think
> about Viper Enterprise vs NOD32.
>
>
>
> Speaking of AV, in my experience I have had very very low infection rates
> with both Trend or McAfee. I went to Vipre for the better spyware/malware
> side, only later realizing Trend updated their product. Bad me.
>
> *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER
> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
> (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764
>
> *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:47 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE
>
>
>
> My network is 200 +
>
>
>
> *___________________________________*
>
> *Stefan Jafs*
>
>
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:34 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE
>
>
>
> How big is your network? I converted a couple of clients (less than 25
> seats) from Trend OfficeScan (aka Worry-Free business) to Vipre, as well as
> my own small shop, but not 100% convinced it's ready for "prime big time"
> (Nothing glaring really, it's just the conservative side of me). There's a
> Vipre Enterprise mailing list that is worthwhile to watch too.
>
>
>
> For small businesses the lower cost will probably offset the slight
> learning curve. (Note: cranking up the security  to full blown paranoia mode
> will create some work for you J).
>
> *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER
> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
> (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764
>
>
>
> *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:22 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* NOD32 - > VIPRE
>
>
>
> My NOD32 is coming up for renewal, I installed the demo version of VIPRE,
> so far it looks good.
>
> Is there any reason not to change?
>
> NOD323 has worked very well for me, so why switch?
>
> Well the $$ are very attractive but if there is a problem it's not worth
> the switch!
>
>
>
> What are your experiences?
>
>
>
> *___________________________________*
>
> *Stefan Jafs*
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