Gesh don't make a joke like that, please. You might give them an idea they had not even thought of.
Jon On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Phil Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sunbelt is a great company!! Support is superb.. Until they get bought > out by Symantec or the like.. > > > > Phil > > *From:* Steve Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2008 8:32 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE > > > > Yes, if you post a comment on the list for Sunbelt's Counterspy, for > example. A ticket is opened and a tech calls YOU. At least it works that way > for me. > > > > *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2008 5:19 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: NOD32 - > VIPRE > > > > Then you must have missed the bad definitions NOD put out a few months > ago. Freaking thing started quarantining all our DOCX documents and then > would not release them from quarantine without first sending a copy to > Eset. Try explaining something like that to researchers working on > patentable projects! That is one of the reasons why I am looking at > moving. I will add that the support Sunbelt has for all their products goes > way beyond almost all the other companies. > > > > Jon > > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Stefan Jafs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Actually, I have 200+ PC and I gotten a very attractive quote from Sunbelt, > I also have the 30 Day 5 user Vipre installed and running. However right now > the extra few $$K is not worth it if I have to go around to 200 PC' and fix > a bad update! NOD 32 works very well in my environment, ones you get used to > the console is not so bad, I only had to call tech support ones this year, > it was not an urgent matter but it did take some time to resolve. > > > > If I only had 10 – 25 PC' it would be a no-brainer! I would switch to Vipre > right now. I think Vipre is an excellent product but not mature enough for > the enterprise, only my humble opinion. > > BTW I'm using Ninja on my mail server and I'm very happy with it. > > > > *___________________________________* > > *Stefan Jafs* > > > > *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:42 PM > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE > > > > Any, how many PC's? > > > > *___________________________________* > > *Stefan Jafs* > > > > *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:33 PM > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE > > > > IMO only, ESET has really gone downhill in the last year. I too, was a > huge ESET fan, however, support tanked, the response times got unbearable > (hours turned into days), the new version sucked donkey balls and I was > never a fan of the console. For me, VIPRE was a no brainer mainly on price > and an additional point of consolidation; i.e., migrating from NOD32 + CSE > to VIPRE. NOD32 is a decent product as (someone check me on this) they are > the oldest player in this space. The time was just right for me and I was > able to sign a three year deal with the Clearwater crew for less than a > FREAKIN' RENEWAL of NOD32. ESET was the stuff 18 months ago but I think > they got lazy. Shookie's opinion only and YMMV > > > > Love to all, > > > > Shook > > > > *From:* Axcess Internet (Listserv) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:16 PM > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE > > > > John: > > > > I know what you mean, we switched to ESET because of all the "promotion" it > was getting here; as my contract is up at the end of the new year, I am > wondering if I should switch as well. I can honestly say I have been happy > with ESET. > > > > Just my .02 worth. > > > > Regards, > > Jim > > > > *From:* Kelsey, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:54 > > > *To:* ML: NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE > > > > Boy I remember not too long ago ESET was all the rage on this list. I > can't recall anybody having anything negative to say about them. Now it > sounds like everybody is jumping ship! > > > > > > ******************************* > *John C. Kelsey** > *DuBois Regional Medical Center > (: 814.375.3073 > *: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ******************************* > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2008 15:47 > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE > > Lol, ESET should buy a copy and learn a few things. So far I am very happy > switching away from ESET, Vipre answered every deficiency I had with ESET. > jlc > > > > *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:22 PM > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE > > > > Interesting, I told ESET that I'm considering switching to Vipre, they > don't even consider Sunbelt a competitor, they only compare themselves to > Trend, Symantec, Sophos, etc.. > > If Vipre was a bit more mature I would definitely switch but reading about > the latest definition issue, I probably have to stay with ESET for now > (against my want). > > > > *___________________________________* > > *Stefan Jafs* > > > > *From:* Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:26 PM > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE > > > > Fwiw, there are a LOT of fixes and enhancements in the new agent being > released in several weeks. > > > > Alex > > Alex Eckelberry, CEO > Sunbelt Software, Inc. > 33 N. Garden Avenue, Clearwater, FL 33755 > 727.562.0101 x220 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.sunbeltsoftware.com > www.sunbeltblog.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Jonathan Gruber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:58 PM > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE > > I had/have this issue also. Only happens to me when sending email with > attachments. I've also noticed a real slow-down when selecting many messages > (read over 200) to delete. I'd be interested in what they say. > > > > Jonathan Gruber > > Network Administrator > > J.B. Long Inc. > > 610-944-8840 x.213 > > 484-637-1978 direct > > > > *From:* Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:06 PM > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE > > > > I had the same issue but didn't relate it to be a Viper issue. I wrote > Sunbelt about this and will let you know. > > > > > > Phil Thompson > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:56 PM > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE > > > > Yes. > > > > *Paul Chinnery* > *Network Administrator* > *Memorial Medical Center* > *231-845-2319* > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:42 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE > > Is that the error when sending and email? > > > > > > Phil Thompson > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:38 PM > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE > > > > He kept getting the "Operation Failed" error. > > > > *Paul Chinnery* > *Network Administrator* > *Memorial Medical Center* > *231-845-2319* > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:32 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE > > I'm curious - what sort of trouble? I'm running the consumer version of > Vipre on a Vista laptop with OL2007... > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:19 PM > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE > > Our Sys Admin has O2007 installed and it was causing him trouble. As I > already have 2 layers of a/v defense with email, I just turned off Emaili > protection. > > > > *Paul Chinnery* > *Network Administrator* > *Memorial Medical Center* > *231-845-2319* > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:33 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE > > Nope no regrets, the "bad me" was more about not doing a thorough due > diligence before moving them to Vipre – hadn't occurred to me to see if > Trend had upgraded their product before shopping elsewhere is all. The Vipre > move saved my clients money even if you factor in the new install and > learning curve, and it works fine. > > > > As stated earlier… on one client I cranked up full paranoia mode and it > nuked Outlook (Sunbelt didn't have that particular version of the > outlook.exe on file yet) so be sure to test settings changes on a small > group first J. > > > > Also as Phil said, Sunbelt's support is great, and on the Vipre list > there's a couple guys who seem to know the product almost as well as > Sunbelt. > > *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER > NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION > (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764 > > > > *From:* Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:16 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE > > > > So are you saying you regret moving to Vipre? > > > > *Paul Chinnery* > *Network Administrator* > *Memorial Medical Center* > *231-845-2319* > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:06 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE > > As someone else said, load it up on a server and some systems (VM's maybe?) > and subscribe to the Vipre Enterprise list. As you said, since NOD32 Is > working well I think you'd just need to get a feel for what you think about > Viper Enterprise vs NOD32. > > > > Speaking of AV, in my experience I have had very very low infection rates > with both Trend or McAfee. I went to Vipre for the better spyware/malware > side, only later realizing Trend updated their product. Bad me. > > *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER > NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION > (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764 > > *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:47 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE > > > > My network is 200 + > > > > *___________________________________* > > *Stefan Jafs* > > > > *From:* David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:34 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE > > > > How big is your network? I converted a couple of clients (less than 25 > seats) from Trend OfficeScan (aka Worry-Free business) to Vipre, as well as > my own small shop, but not 100% convinced it's ready for "prime big time" > (Nothing glaring really, it's just the conservative side of me). There's a > Vipre Enterprise mailing list that is worthwhile to watch too. > > > > For small businesses the lower cost will probably offset the slight > learning curve. (Note: cranking up the security to full blown paranoia mode > will create some work for you J). > > *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER > NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION > (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764 > > > > *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:22 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* NOD32 - > VIPRE > > > > My NOD32 is coming up for renewal, I installed the demo version of VIPRE, > so far it looks good. > > Is there any reason not to change? > > NOD323 has worked very well for me, so why switch? > > Well the $$ are very attractive but if there is a problem it's not worth > the switch! > > > > What are your experiences? > > > > *___________________________________* > > *Stefan Jafs* > > > > This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for > the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not > read, distribute, copy or alter this email. 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