Even socialists are laughing at the idea of Obama being called socialist. -----Original Message----- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 2:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
roflwaffes. Our economy is already well socialized at the state and federal levels. Edging it to be more (hopefully only for a short term) or less for the welfare of a very hurting country is not necessarily a bad thing - for the good of the country. Not that you are, but to brand him a socialist, or any ideas he is pushing as "socialism", is silly IMO. Our economy is a blend of capitalist and socialist ideals. -- ME2 On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:32 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Probably not a great day to retort on this, but you will either agree > or hunt me down.. > > 2009 is going to be a bad year in the economy. You don't bounce back from > a trillion dollar globalwide investment loss, the largest downslide in > the economy in over 70 years and a huge unemployment number.. > > I also don't care who is the President, they are not going to fix our > problem. The president is a part of the checks and balances when it > comes to the bills congress puts through, and yes he has an agenda and > will push it with Congress; making it harder or easier to pass bills..Good or BAD. > > > > I can also tell you that I will be voting for McCain for the simple > fact that Obama is moving this country toward a socialized economy no > matter how you dress up the words. He wants to increase the taxes for > me as a business owner and redistribute it in the form of higher taxes > and a bloated government. Not to mention his provision for bring in > illegals and giving them a driver license, benefits, social > security(Which who will pay for that? You and I that's who). The > welfare system kicked into high gear.....I did not work my butt off 60 > to 70 hours a week to have someone who wants to sit on their butt for > a year and take 60% welfare checks because McDonalds doesn't pay as much... among other personal value decisions.. > > If you have worked hard and saved you should not be penalized and your > wealth redistributed simply because someone does not have as much. > The very essence of this country was built upon hardwork and > ingenuity, those who don't want to work and work hard are not entitled > to the benefits of wealth from those that do. Also provide 100% > healthcare..A noble goal, but the reality is that 100% healthcare is > universal socialization and everyone paying a large piece to > redistribute to everyone else who doesn't and the quality of care > drops. Look at France...They pay CSG and CDRS(Healthcare, Social > Security) taxes against their income and then their tax bracket after > those taxes is up to 50%, this can equate to 60%+ of your income to > taxes... > > > > Oh and to further my soapbox, One of the largest reasons we are where > we are is a lack of personal responsibility (Mostly Wall Street and > the Banks being greedy and making bad business decisions) and then > demanding that our government pay for the mistakes of business owners, > people who buy homes and cars we had no business buying, and saying, > "Save me, I am a stupid person who takes no responsibility or my > actions, but I will vote for whoever is going to promise me everything." > > > > Remember this. "A Government large enough to give you everything you > want, is a government large enough to take everything you have." -- > Henry Ford > > > > Ok off soapbox, back to regularly scheduled tech support. > > > > From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:37 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? > > > > The college educational system which has grown by 440% in costs should > be able to not be cutting budgets. IMO > > > > I think no matter who the President is everything will be better > afterwards, whether we get the big spender and everyone sells stuff to > the govt and we can cut out healthcare and use the govt's system to > save money, or the cost saver gets in and it goes back to business as usual. > > > > Bush isn't going to do anything between now and then so that's > probably why everything is topsy turvey, home sales went up last month > for the first time so I think the end of the skid is coming to a > close. (Thank God) > > > > On this end, I have seen a noticeable drop off in business, as a > consultant, however, nothing worse than usual as the end of year is > coming up and all the holidays, usually November/December are slow and > I get a couple of big projects with the downtime, so we will see if I get those approved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
