Here's a good read:

http://atimes.com/atimes/China/JJ28Ad01.html 

-----Original Message-----
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?

A very interesting read that highlights the stereotyped snapshots that
one cultures gets of another...

But "a Beijing friend" is not tantamount to backing him as a
country/foreign power.  The Chinese government has been very careful
to be neutral regarding this issue.

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ME2



On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Rod Trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am serious.  They were tentative about him to start out, but they've
> really warmed to him recently.  Some are saying it is because his beliefs
> fall more in line with the Chinese gov't.
>
> However, this recent article made a bit more sense:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/23/opinion/23kristof.html
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:26 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying
decisions?
>
> LOL u arent serious? U right winger U :) Grin
>
> Z
>
> Edward E. Ziots
> Network Engineer
> Lifespan Organization
> MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
> Phone: 401-639-3505
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:24 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying
> decisions?
>
> China is backing him.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:20 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying
> decisions?
>
> Even socialists are laughing at the idea of Obama being called
> socialist.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 2:21 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: OT: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying
> decisions?
>
> roflwaffes.
>
> Our economy is already well socialized at the state and federal levels.
> Edging it to be more (hopefully only for a short term) or less for the
> welfare of a very hurting country is not necessarily a bad thing - for
> the good of the country.  Not that you are, but to brand him a
> socialist, or any ideas he is pushing as "socialism", is silly IMO.  Our
> economy is a blend of capitalist and socialist ideals.
>
> --
> ME2
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:32 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Probably not a great day to retort on this, but you will either agree
>> or hunt me down..
>>
>> 2009 is going to be a bad year in the economy.   You don't bounce back
> from
>> a trillion dollar globalwide investment loss, the largest downslide in
>
>> the economy in over 70 years and a huge unemployment number..
>>
>> I also don't care who is the President, they are not going to fix our
>> problem.  The president is a part of the checks and balances when it
>> comes to the bills congress puts through, and yes he has an agenda and
>
>> will push it with Congress;  making it harder or easier to pass
> bills..Good or BAD.
>>
>>
>>
>> I can also tell you that I will be voting for McCain for  the simple
>> fact that Obama is moving this country toward a socialized economy no
>> matter how you dress up the words.  He wants to increase the taxes for
>
>> me as a business owner and redistribute it in the form of higher taxes
>
>> and a bloated government.  Not to mention his provision for bring in
>> illegals and giving them a driver license, benefits, social
>> security(Which who will pay for that? You and I that's who).  The
>> welfare system kicked into high gear.....I did not work my butt off 60
>
>> to 70 hours a week to have someone who wants to sit on their butt for
>> a year and take 60% welfare checks because McDonalds doesn't pay as
> much... among other personal value decisions..
>>
>> If you have worked hard and saved you should not be penalized and your
>
>> wealth redistributed simply because someone does not have as much.
>> The very essence of this country was built upon hardwork and
>> ingenuity, those who don't want to work and work hard are not entitled
>
>> to the benefits of wealth from those that do.  Also provide 100%
>> healthcare..A noble goal, but the reality is that 100% healthcare is
>> universal socialization and everyone paying a large piece to
>> redistribute to everyone else who doesn't and the quality of care
>> drops.  Look at France...They pay CSG and CDRS(Healthcare, Social
>> Security) taxes against their income and then their tax bracket after
>> those taxes is up to 50%, this can equate to 60%+ of your income to
>> taxes...
>>
>>
>>
>> Oh and to further my soapbox, One of the largest reasons we are where
>> we are is a lack of personal responsibility (Mostly Wall Street and
>> the Banks being greedy and making bad business decisions) and then
>> demanding that our government pay for the mistakes of business owners,
>
>> people who buy homes and cars we had no business buying, and saying,
>> "Save me, I am a stupid person who takes no responsibility or my
>> actions, but I will vote for whoever is going to promise me
> everything."
>>
>>
>>
>> Remember this.  "A Government large enough to give you everything you
>> want, is a government large enough to take everything you have." --
>> Henry Ford
>>
>>
>>
>> Ok off soapbox, back to regularly scheduled tech support.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:37 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying
> decisions?
>>
>>
>>
>> The college educational system which has grown by 440% in costs should
>
>> be able to not be cutting budgets. IMO
>>
>>
>>
>> I think no matter who the President is everything will be better
>> afterwards, whether we get the big spender and everyone sells stuff to
>
>> the govt and we can cut out healthcare and use the govt's system to
>> save money, or the cost saver gets in and it goes back to business as
> usual.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bush isn't going to do anything between now and then so that's
>> probably why everything is topsy turvey, home sales went up last month
>
>> for the first time so I think the end of the skid is coming to a
>> close. (Thank God)
>>
>>
>>
>> On this end, I have seen a noticeable drop off in business, as a
>> consultant, however, nothing worse than usual as the end of year is
>> coming up and all the holidays, usually November/December are slow and
>
>> I get a couple of big projects with the downtime, so we will see if I
> get those approved.
>>
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