Interesting read -----Original Message----- From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 3:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
Here's a good read: http://atimes.com/atimes/China/JJ28Ad01.html -----Original Message----- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? A very interesting read that highlights the stereotyped snapshots that one cultures gets of another... But "a Beijing friend" is not tantamount to backing him as a country/foreign power. The Chinese government has been very careful to be neutral regarding this issue. -- ME2 On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Rod Trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am serious. They were tentative about him to start out, but they've > really warmed to him recently. Some are saying it is because his beliefs > fall more in line with the Chinese gov't. > > However, this recent article made a bit more sense: > > http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/23/opinion/23kristof.html > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:26 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? > > LOL u arent serious? U right winger U :) Grin > > Z > > Edward E. Ziots > Network Engineer > Lifespan Organization > MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA > Phone: 401-639-3505 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:24 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying > decisions? > > China is backing him. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:20 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying > decisions? > > Even socialists are laughing at the idea of Obama being called > socialist. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 2:21 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: OT: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying > decisions? > > roflwaffes. > > Our economy is already well socialized at the state and federal levels. > Edging it to be more (hopefully only for a short term) or less for the > welfare of a very hurting country is not necessarily a bad thing - for > the good of the country. Not that you are, but to brand him a > socialist, or any ideas he is pushing as "socialism", is silly IMO. Our > economy is a blend of capitalist and socialist ideals. > > -- > ME2 > > > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:32 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Probably not a great day to retort on this, but you will either agree >> or hunt me down.. >> >> 2009 is going to be a bad year in the economy. You don't bounce back > from >> a trillion dollar globalwide investment loss, the largest downslide in > >> the economy in over 70 years and a huge unemployment number.. >> >> I also don't care who is the President, they are not going to fix our >> problem. The president is a part of the checks and balances when it >> comes to the bills congress puts through, and yes he has an agenda and > >> will push it with Congress; making it harder or easier to pass > bills..Good or BAD. >> >> >> >> I can also tell you that I will be voting for McCain for the simple >> fact that Obama is moving this country toward a socialized economy no >> matter how you dress up the words. He wants to increase the taxes for > >> me as a business owner and redistribute it in the form of higher taxes > >> and a bloated government. Not to mention his provision for bring in >> illegals and giving them a driver license, benefits, social >> security(Which who will pay for that? You and I that's who). The >> welfare system kicked into high gear.....I did not work my butt off 60 > >> to 70 hours a week to have someone who wants to sit on their butt for >> a year and take 60% welfare checks because McDonalds doesn't pay as > much... among other personal value decisions.. >> >> If you have worked hard and saved you should not be penalized and your > >> wealth redistributed simply because someone does not have as much. >> The very essence of this country was built upon hardwork and >> ingenuity, those who don't want to work and work hard are not entitled > >> to the benefits of wealth from those that do. Also provide 100% >> healthcare..A noble goal, but the reality is that 100% healthcare is >> universal socialization and everyone paying a large piece to >> redistribute to everyone else who doesn't and the quality of care >> drops. Look at France...They pay CSG and CDRS(Healthcare, Social >> Security) taxes against their income and then their tax bracket after >> those taxes is up to 50%, this can equate to 60%+ of your income to >> taxes... >> >> >> >> Oh and to further my soapbox, One of the largest reasons we are where >> we are is a lack of personal responsibility (Mostly Wall Street and >> the Banks being greedy and making bad business decisions) and then >> demanding that our government pay for the mistakes of business owners, > >> people who buy homes and cars we had no business buying, and saying, >> "Save me, I am a stupid person who takes no responsibility or my >> actions, but I will vote for whoever is going to promise me > everything." >> >> >> >> Remember this. "A Government large enough to give you everything you >> want, is a government large enough to take everything you have." -- >> Henry Ford >> >> >> >> Ok off soapbox, back to regularly scheduled tech support. >> >> >> >> From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:37 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying > decisions? >> >> >> >> The college educational system which has grown by 440% in costs should > >> be able to not be cutting budgets. IMO >> >> >> >> I think no matter who the President is everything will be better >> afterwards, whether we get the big spender and everyone sells stuff to > >> the govt and we can cut out healthcare and use the govt's system to >> save money, or the cost saver gets in and it goes back to business as > usual. >> >> >> >> Bush isn't going to do anything between now and then so that's >> probably why everything is topsy turvey, home sales went up last month > >> for the first time so I think the end of the skid is coming to a >> close. (Thank God) >> >> >> >> On this end, I have seen a noticeable drop off in business, as a >> consultant, however, nothing worse than usual as the end of year is >> coming up and all the holidays, usually November/December are slow and > >> I get a couple of big projects with the downtime, so we will see if I > get those approved. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). 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