But.... be careful buying two from the same place. They may be from the same "batch", and may have a failure at of very near the same time.
-- ME2 On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Carl Houseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > www.newegg.com - $59 after rebate plus about $10 shipping. Buy two, never > rely on having just one backup. > > > > Carl > > > > > > From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 6:09 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: backup for vista > > > > Where are you finding those kind of pricing? > > > > Jon > > On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Roger Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hard drives prices have really plummeted. You can get a 500 GB USB drive > for $69; and a full terabyte for $109. It's definitely the best way to go. > > > > > > > > Roger Wright > > Network Administrator > > Evatone, Inc. > > 727.572.7076 x388 > > _____ > > > > From: Steve Pruitt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 10:15 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: backup for vista > > > > Like my answer to Roger, this is also a form of inertia. I've been backing > up to CDs, then DVDs, ever since I first could. I couldn't wait to get rid > of my old tape drive. It's relatively recent that I could get a decent > external hard drive at all, let alone for a reasonable price. I'll have to > look into this, too. Money is really tight these days, but the drives are > cheap enough to seriously consider. > > > > Thanks, guys! > > > > > > Steve > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Martin Blackstone > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 9:54 AM > > Subject: RE: backup for vista > > > > So why are you backing up to DVD? Why not removable disk. > > > > From: Steve Pruitt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 8:19 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: backup for vista > > > > Good thought, Roger, but it was a full. PreSales support was actually > available and helpful, showed me how to turn on debug logging. Now I have to > recreate the problem. Hopefully I can do that with less than 13 DVDs. I give > them very high marks for the support so far. How many other companies will > let you into a chat room with a person that can actually answer questions, > even tough tech ones, at 10PM Eastern on a Saturday night. > > > > I'll continue to report back any interesting events, progress or > non-progress, that might help others make their decision. > > > > > > Steve > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Roger Wright > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 10:44 PM > > Subject: RE: backup for vista > > > > Is this a differential? If so, you may need to have the primary full backup > available. > > > > > > > > Roger Wright > > Network Administrator > > Evatone, Inc. > > 727.572.7076 x388 > > _____ > > > > From: Steve Pruitt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 7:12 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: backup for vista > > > > Well, I tested backing up to DVDs, and at the end of the 13th disk I got > this: > > > > > > I also found the reason, a definite program bug. The log file says: > > <event code="17" id="42" level="2" message="File I/O error (0x40011) >    function = "OpenFileW"a;,    filename = > "\\?\E:\MyBackup.tib"    Tag = > 0xF35F747B3B21F833 The system cannot find the file specified > (0xFFF0)    code = 80070002)    Tag = > 0xBD28FDBD64EDB8B9" module="4" time="1226186892" /> > > So it can't find file MyBackup.tib. Well no wonder. On each disk the file it > named MyBackup<disknum>.tib. The last disk has MyBackup13.tib. None of the > disks contain MyBackup.tib. It really bothers me that I can find such a > simple bug in my first test - makes me wonder how much regression testing > they do before making a new build available.This is version 12.0.0.9615 > dated 10/13/08. > > > > I can't send a message to tech support since I haven't registered the > program. I'll try the presales chat line after dinner, but I'll be surprised > if they can help. Still, at least I can reach someone in the company on a > Saturday night - that's better than most companies. > > > > Do any of the Acronis users out there have any ideas? A search of their site > for the error code gets no hits. > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Steve Pruitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 10:49 PM > > Subject: Re: backup for vista > > > >> I'm reading the Acronis manual, and came up with a question. I actually >> got >> an answer from their tech support chat line just now, at 10PM Eastern. I >> asked if you create a SecureZone partition and then do a backup of the >> full >> disk to DVDs, does that backup include the SecureZone? I don't see >> anyplace >> in the manual saying it's excluded. The answer is that you can choose to >> exclude it. It's not excluded automatically. That's important to remember. >> >> I'm DEFINITELY going to test it this weekend! And Webster, thanks for that >> technique to buy it for $35. I can make good use of that money. >> >> >> Steve >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Roger Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 9:22 AM >> Subject: RE: backup for vista >> >> >> The initial page indicates version 11 but when you click through for the >> discount it takes you to a page to download the new version, 2009. >> >> I've tested several restores from my backups, from individual files to >> complete folders and all have been good. I think the most I restored >> was a 1 GB folder of JPGs and they were fine. I like the "set and >> forget" aspect so that my differentials take place without intervention. >> >> >> >> >> Roger Wright >> Network Administrator >> Evatone, Inc. >> 727.572.7076 x388 >> _____ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Steve Pruitt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:00 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: backup for vista >> >> Did you verify the backups? That seems to be one of the main points >> where >> the backup is reported as corrupt. I found the discussion about this I >> was >> referring to at http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=185256 >> and I >> see that even though they are recent posts, they mostly reference >> version >> 9, which is encouraging. By version 11 or 2009 this might be all fixed. >> >> Thanks for the tip on the discount, Roger! I can definitely appreciate >> saving a few bucks these days. I see that's for version 11, not 2009. >> I'll >> have to download the free trial and try it in my environment this >> weekend. >> That's always the ultimate test, seeing if an app works properly when >> used >> in your environment the way you want to use it. Problems in other areas >> don't count, as long as they aren't areas you might be interested in >> later. >> >> >> Steve >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Roger Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:51 PM >> Subject: RE: backup for vista >> >> >> I've only been using it a few weeks, but all my test restores >> (individual files, not complete images) have been 100% successful. >> >> Just received this offer this evening: >> >> Save 15% on Acronis TrueImage Home: >> http://www.wugnet.com/affiliates/default.asp?pageid=1522 >> >> >> >> Roger Wright >> Network Administrator >> Evatone, Inc. >> 727.572.7076 x388 >> _____ >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Steve Pruitt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:41 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: backup for vista >> >> I've been looking at Vista backup solutions during the last few days >> since I >> had to replace my home XP system with one running Vista, and found my >> old >> version of Ghost isn't compatible with Vista. I saw complaints about >> corrupted backups with Acronis that concerned me, though I have the >> impression these were mostly with earlier versions. I have to check that >> >> deeper. I know Acronis always gets rave reviews here, which means a lot >> to >> me. I found two other apps, ShadowProtect Desktop and Genie Backup >> Mansger, >> that look interesting. Has anyone here had experience with either of >> them? >> >> >> Steve >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Roger Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:05 PM >> Subject: RE: backup for vista >> >> >> Acronis TrueImage Home very well. Automates the entire process with >> full or differential backups, is fast to backup, simple to restore and >> easy to manage. >> >> I purchased version 11.x; the newest version (2009) came out a few weeks >> ago. >> >> http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/ >> >> >> >> Roger Wright >> Network Administrator >> Evatone, Inc. >> 727.572.7076 x388 >> _____ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:35 AM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: backup for vista >> >> Anybody have a good personal standalone backup for vista? It seems >> like vista ultimate will only backup the whole computer or your user >> settings. 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