Very cool.  I will definitely check that out next time the situation
comes up.  Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 6:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: vmserver or esxi

Agreed. In instances where things don't go perfect, I fall back on that.

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 1:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: vmserver or esxi

You can connect to a BES server with a desktop client and activate
your BlackBerry from there.  We do it all the time with various
activations.  Sometimes the wireless just doesn't go smoothly or you
need to nuke the hand held to make it pay attention

Steven Peck

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Martin Blackstone
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I found that until BES 4.1 the wireless activation was a crap shoot.
Since
> then it has been rock solid.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ralph Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 9:32 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: vmserver or esxi
>
> Didn't know about ESX not doing USB.  I'm oh for three trying to
> activate devices wirelessly - they have all got stuck on "Waiting for
> services"  - but since I've only had 3 users in 2 years it's not a big
> deal for me.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wjh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 12:20 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: vmserver or esxi
>>
>> yeah, we haven't had to physically attach a Blackberry in years.  The
>> wireless activation works great.
>>
>> Sherry Abercrombie wrote:
>>
>>       Wireless activation is da bomb.  As long at the user is in a
>> location that is receiving a good signal.  We usually have to take
the
>> device to a different location near a window, or outside so that it
is
>> receiving full strength signal, away from all the metal beams in the
>> building etc that drops signal strength.  Quirky, but it only seems
to
>> matter with the wireless activation, once that is setup, phone and
> email
>> reception works just fine.
>>
>>
>>       On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Martin Blackstone
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>               I believe the same goes for HyperV as well.
>>
>>               As for specific to BB,  we do all activations
> wirelessly.
>>
>>
>>
>>               -----Original Message-----
>>               From: Jason Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>               Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:54 AM
>>               To: NT System Admin Issues
>>
>>               Subject: RE: vmserver or esxi
>>
>>               ESX doesn't handle USB at all.
>>
>>               I've had a BES server with 70 users running in ESX3.0
> for the
>> past 8
>>               months with no problems. None of our Blackberry's touch
> it
>> physically,
>>               it's all done via service books.
>>
>>               Highly recommend virtualizing BES.
>>               Good luck!
>>               Jason
>>
>>               -----Original Message-----
>>               From: Ralph Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>               Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:50 AM
>>               To: NT System Admin Issues
>>
>>               Subject: RE: vmserver or esxi
>>
>>               A couple of years ago my CEO dropped in on me and said
> "Look,
>> my husband
>>               just bought me a Blackberry for my birthday.  I need it
> set up
>> with my
>>               Exchange account, and I need it now because I am going
> to
>> Europe in two
>>               days."
>>
>>               We had no other Blackberry users and no spare servers
> around,
>> so I set
>>               up a BES using VMware server in Win2003, which at the
> time was
>> free with
>>               one CAL.  Anyway, the reason I mention this is that
I've
> had
>> it running
>>               there ever since, but I only have a few users.
>>
>>               The one problem I do have is getting the BES to
> recognize a
>> Blackberry
>>               device plugged in to a USB port.  Sometimes it works,
>> sometimes not.
>>               Sometimes it blue screens the virtual BES.
>>
>>               Don't know if this is just a glitch in my setup, but
I'm
>> guessing ESXi
>>               handles USB devices better than VMware server.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>               > -----Original Message-----
>>               > From: wjh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>               > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:49 AM
>>               > To: NT System Admin Issues
>>               > Subject: vmserver or esxi
>>               >
>>               > I have a Blackberry server running on ancient
> hardware.  It
>> has about
>>               > 100 users on it.  I'm thinking I will P to V it,
> rather than
>> do a
>>               knife
>>               > edge cutover.  Would you consider just using VMserver
> or
>> would you use
>>               > ESXi?  The new box will be a DL360 (single processor)
> with
>> 15k scsi
>>               > drives and 2 gigs of RAM.  It will do nothing but
host
> the
>> BB server.
>>               >
>>               > Thanks for any input.
>>               >
>>               > bill
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