Last years black friday (post-turkey day) I picked up a Samsung CLP-300 for
$99 after rebate.  Rarely print color.  Probably about 100 pages daily run
thru it (ebay/amazon business order printouts).  On Ebay you can get generic
black toner tubs for that thing under 20 bucks - no integrated drum.  The
imaging unit probably needs changing after 20,000 pages or so, and thats
only 100 bucks.
 
Really cheap printer to operate (and color to boot!)
 
 
 
Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107
 
 
 

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From: Jon Harris [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Printing issue


With the price of gas as high as it is I would but the owners don't seem to
want to part with them.
 
Jon


On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Dallas Burnworth
<[email protected]> wrote:


Right, but that is why you have to consider the time and cost of keeping
them up and running, cost per page and replacement parts. In the case of
the LaserJet 5, everything you buy is going to be refurbished or third
party. That means you are at the mercy of the few people that provide
that stuff for price and availability instead of the competitive market.

I guess the point I am trying to make is that spending more than an 8
hour day to get a LaserJet 4 or 5 running is not worth it unless whoever
owns it is paying someone minimum wage to fix it.

Model T Fords can be fixed indefinitely and some have been on the roads
for 100 years (and you can still find places that sell replacement
parts), but how many people are taking these things on the morning
commute?


-----Original Message-----
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Printing issue


On 17 Dec 2008 at 6:54, Dallas Burnworth  wrote:

> I apologize for not paying attention at the beginning. Not to get too
> far off the subject, but LaserJet 5? Why are you still using that?
They
> are tanks and last forever, but compared to anything you can get today
> you are hemorrhaging money just to keep it running. Here are 2 links
> that will prove it.
>
> HP LaserJet Power Calculator. (You will need to know what you pay per
> KWH.) You can compare new HP printers to Legacy HP printers or current
> competitive printers. This is really useful and for people trying to
> save money any way they can, this tells them exactly where the money
is
> going.
>
http://hpbroadband.com/(S(q3zkyv45j14ant45zwnel1rb))/program.aspx?key=In
> stantOnMFPs

I compared my antique Laserjet 5MP with HP's choice to replace it, the
LJ2015.
Over 5 years, it saved me all of $6 in electricity.  Whoopie Doo!

> LaserJet Page Cost Calculator. 70% of an HP printer's technology (not
> sure what it is on other brands) is in the cartridge, so it is very
> important to control the ongoing cost of every printer with
consistency
> in manufacture. In most cases man-hours are much more expensive than
> just getting the product that is more easily supported and cost the
end
> user or customer less than a single day of consulting fees.
>
http://www.hp.com/large/ipg/mfp/competitive-comparison-m4345mfp.html?jum
> pid=ex_r2548_go/pagecost

This compare big honking units with copier-based units.  Most of the
cost
savings appears to come from the initial purchase price.

> I'm not saying don't fix the current issue or anything (sometimes you
> just have to make things work), but you can use these tools in the
> future to differentiate your value to your customer/boss etc. from
your
> competition and peers.

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
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