Yes, great assessment Ben.

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From: Linda C Jones [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 11:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Gone way OT: Windows 7 On TechNet Now

Very well said. My sentiments exactly!

Linda

Ben Scott wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 8:24 AM, John Hornbuckle
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>   
>> And as you say, Vista isn't nearly as bad as the FUD-spreaders would
have people believe.
>>     
>
>   Of course, neither is Linux.  I must admit, the Linux fan in me is
> somewhat amused to see Microsoft falling victim to one of their own
> favorite tricks.  I have a hard time dredging up any sympathy for
> Ballmer and company.  Especially when they're obviously trying real
> hard to get people to move off XP to Vista/7, when many of their
> paying customers are apparently are saying we'd rather not.
>
>   
>> ... just plain unwilling to learn something new.
>>     
>
>   A big part of my objection to Vista (as an IT management weenie) is
> that the apparent improvements don't warrant the apparent costs of the
> changes.  The ROI just isn't there.  Aside from the learning curve,
> there's lots of incompatibilities.  Drivers.  MSIE 7.  Roaming
> profiles.  UI.  Sure, those incompatibilies only affect existing stuff
> -- guess what, we've got existing stuff we have to worry about.  So
> does 99% of the rest of the world.
>
>   If there were some radical improvements -- like there were with the
> 95/98/NT4 -> 2000/XP switch -- it would be one thing.  But I frankly
> just don't see it with XP -> Vista.
>
>   Image-based deployment?  We've already invested time/effort/money in
> RIS here, and now we're supposed to invest in something different that
> does the same thing.  BitLocker?  Licensing issues make it non-viable
> for all but very large companies.  Better GPOs?  Don't help our 100 or
> so existing XP stations.
>
>   It seems like the major added capabilities in Vista are Aero,
> DirectX 10, and home multimedia stuff.  Fine for home users, I guess.
> But none are something I want in a business environment.  Indeed, in
> business, *we want a consistent UI*.  Otherwise support, training, and
> documentation all become more expensive.
>
>   Likewise, a big part of the reason we haven't deployed Office 2007
> anywhere is the radical UI change.  Sure, people can get used to it.
> Sure, it's arguably an improvement in some ways.  But guess what?
> Throwing out 25 years of working UI conventions for a very marginal
> improvement in usability is just plain not worth it.
>
>   It's like the auto industry engineers who keep trying to replace the
> steering-wheel/pedals/shifter arrangement.  Sure, it might be possible
> to do things a little better, but it's simply not worth the effort of
> teaching hundreds of millions of people how to drive all over again.
>
>   Heck, the very thing that keeps many people on the Microsoft
> platform is that it isn't worth the pain and drawbacks of switching to
> something Linux or Mac.  When it comes right down to it, a computer's
> pretty much a computer, regardless of the software you're using.  All
> the various offerings have their strengths and weaknesses.  But
> throwing out something that mostly-works just to replace it with
> something else that will mostly-work is a bad value proposition.
>
>   So Vista isn't the train wreck some say it is, but it also didn't
> provide Microsoft a good ROI for the huge amount of time and money
> they spent making it.  Maybe it will pay off eventually by making it
> easier to introduce improvements in future versions of Windows, but I
> kinda doubt it.  In 50+ years of the IT industry history, such
> scenarios have rarely paid off.
>
> -- Ben
>
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