Yeah, the past two years we haven't gotten a raise. Our insurance rates have 
increased, though, resulting in a net loss of pay.

Good times!

But you know, I can't complain. I have a roof over my head, and no real debt 
other than a modest mortgage. It could be worse.



From: Vicky Spelshaus [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 5:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - Reduction in hours, forced to use PTO

Things aren't any better in Wisconsin.... my job is okay (for now), but I've 
taken a pay cut every contract the last 6 years.  During the "good years" when 
many people where getting double-digit raises, we settled for no more than 3% 
with the understandng that they wouldn't touch our benefits.  Well, when the 
state budget hit the fan, they started making us pay for our insurance despite 
the agreements made by past administrations.  As I said, for the last 3 
contracts the raise (if I even got one) didn't cover the raise in my insurance 
fees.  That said - I'm still here 'cause even with what I've lost I'm still 
ahead of others and the IT market here is not good unless I'm willing to 
commute 100+ miles a day (can't move - elderly parents).

As for social security... I tell people that's why we had 2 kids.  Hopefully 
one of them can support us!
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:28 PM, John Aldrich 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

What, you *really* expect Social Security to exist in 20 years? (only 
half-joking)



[cid:[email protected]][cid:[email protected]]



From: John Hornbuckle 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:56 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - Reduction in hours, forced to use PTO



The Florida Retirement System doesn't seem all that bad. I think my FRS check 
plus Social Security plus personal investments should get me by okay when 
retirement comes.



But it'll be another 20 years before I qualify!



:)







From: Jon Harris [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - Reduction in hours, forced to use PTO



I agree with John.  I had to take 3 days at Christmas because the University I 
work at decided to close for the best part of 2 weeks.  Thank God that the rest 
of the days were covered by holidays.  I am most definitely looking forward to 
retirement in less than 18 months.  Then I just need to find another job and 
start earning my second retirement.  I could never live on my retirement the 
state will give me.



Jon

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:23 PM, John Hornbuckle 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:

One of the reasons I've been willing to live with the lower salary one makes in 
the public sector is that in return, one has great job stability.



Normally.



These days, that has been turned on its head; public sector jobs are providing 
neither stability nor good pay.



I'm just thankful that my job is such that literally no one else in our 
organization can do it, and the things I do absolutely *must* be done. Getting 
rid of me wouldn't save any money, unless they replaced me with someone less 
expensive. And considering how modest my salary is, that's not very likely even 
in the current economic climate.







John Hornbuckle

MIS Department

Taylor County School District

318 North Clark Street

Perry, FL 32347



www.taylor.k12.fl.us<http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us/>









From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:11 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: OT - Reduction in hours, forced to use PTO



I work for the state of California, and just narrowly dodged layoffs.  My union 
has agreed to a 4.62% paycut (one day salary), from now through June 2010.  I 
still fear that Ahnold will come back and say it's not enough, and layoffs are 
still needed, but I do have some protection from that now.  Also in the 
Tentative Agreement with the union is that our members cannot be laid off 
unless the agency we work for is eliminated, or the facilities we work at are 
closed.  Even then, because of the agreement, they will give me another job... 
within 10% of my current salary, and within 50 miles of my home.  So, 
theoretically, I could end up taking another 10% cut and increasing my drive to 
work from 6.5 miles to 50...



Joy, oh Joy...hanging on by my fingertips.



Joe Heaton

Employment Training Panel





















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