Stirling does not require SCOM, but rather contains the SCOM agent (much the 
way that FFCS uses the MOM agent). If you are using SCOM already, then the SCOM 
agent that already exists on your clients will work with Stirling. I cannot get 
a straight answer from Microsoft regarding whether the already existing SCOM 
agent that SCE uses will work with Stirling. They have assured me however that 
Stirling will work with SCE, worst case you end up with 2 different versions of 
the SCOM agent on your clients. I'm still not convinced that they won't give 
the agents the same rev. number which would result in either Stirling or SCE 
overwriting the others agent during installation thereby nullifying the 
existing product. I'll definitely be checking it very closely in the lab before 
turning the Stirling/SCE combo loose on my little part of the world.
TVK


From: Jon Harris [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 9:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Forefront

I was under the impression that like the current version of Forefront if you 
did not have one of the System Center products it would install a cut down 
version that only dealt with Forefront.  From what I saw on my installation the 
reason for SQL WAS the MOM package.  I just hope that Sterling will work with 
SCE.  I have that up and running now.  I would not mind doing a re-install when 
Streling is released IF it works well together.  The down side is that Sterling 
is supposed to go Gold about the time for our renewal.  Man I would really hate 
to be one of the first to roll that package.

Jon
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Joseph L. Casale 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Yeah,

I read some more last night. The component that manages non server clients 
needs SQL 2005. The console that could only manage server components can use 
SQL2000+ and Express.



What's worse is the Beta for the next version needs SQL and SCOM from what I 
read.



Lame...

jlc



From: Jon Harris [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 6:50 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Forefront



Try and install a working version without the full SQL.



Jon

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Joseph L. Casale 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

>I was just not happen that our resellar did not make the SQL requirement clear 
>up front.



I am just reading the installation Guide and it suggests:

"SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition (and above), SQL Server 2005 Express Edition, 
or SQL Server 2000"



You have more than 2000 users? I saw somewhere that 2000 users was the limit I 
think for Express...

That would make this cheap? $100.00 per console, and $13.00 per client.



jlc






















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