"Erik Goldoff" <[email protected]> wrote on 05/18/2009 03:04:57 PM:

> I do NOT need any music features on my mobile phone, I'd rather
> have a separate discreet device with its own battery, I use a 
> GPS in my car, don't need to prop up my phone ... 

Well, I'd say you are in the minority - even Garmin is coming out with 
their own converged GPS/phone (but I really hope they have their software 
on the iPhone post OS 3.0)  There is already tight iPod integration with 
most cars these days - with the expanded dock support of 3.0, I would 
imaging the ability to integrate you iPhone with a screen and everything 
else in your car is not far off.  Next logical progression, really...
 
> At this I take offense ... I am not desperate, and definitely 
> not uninformed on the issue ... 

Fair enough.

> yes apple FINALLY switched to 
> an Intel cpu and you can run Windows now on their computers ( 
> if you wanted to ) but they still hold tight to the ROMs, not 
> nearly the open design the PC has ( which, granted, leads to 
> some of the pc problems )

Sure they hold tight control over their hardware - that's what allows them 
to provide the tight end to end experience.  For me, that's a feature not 
problem to be solved :)

But they still aren't a monopoly.

And Apple doesn't have to stay on Intel CPU's.  If, through PA 
Semiconductor, they have their own breakthrough with ARM there is nothing 
to say they won't switch again.  I highly doubt it because they do get a 
huge windfall in being able to easily run Windows along with Mac OSX - but 
Apple is far more flexible in processors then any other company (they have 
shifted processor architectures - successfully - twice now).

> Sigh !!! I saw what was there ... didn't need a sheep to preach
> about how virus free the mac was, or how it almost never 
> crashes ( I've seen more than my share, I used to support macs 
> as well )  ...  I like Coca-Cola too, but tend not to hang with
> their staff as they are somewhat cult-ish too ... watch one 
> when someone else asks for a Pepsi, they get visually disturbed
> that the competition exists ... Mac ( and Apple ) has it's 
> place... there are still things it does better than Wintel, but
> I don't worship at either alter ... I'd just like the tool that
> fits my needs the best at the time. 

Again, that's sales.  It's what every company who is pushing their product 
does.  I don't see them talking up their products any more or less then 
other successful retailers.  Do I accuse the Geek Squad drones at Best Buy 
of worshipping at the Microsoft alter when they start to hard sell me on 
the latest Windows bearing laptop?

You and I may not appreciate it, but it does work for enough people for 
them to do it.  Otherwise they wouldn't bother.

> OK, so exactly what applications  am I missing out on having on
> my phone ?  I haven't run across much that I need to have on a 
> device with a little screen and cramped input

It seems like if you want it, there is an app for it.  Heck, even if you 
don't think you need it there's an app for that :)  Here are some I use in 
no particular order:

Shazam - samples 10-20 seconds of a currently playing song and then tells 
you what it is.  Great when you are listening to the radio and can't 
remember what that song is or hear something new and want to find out what 
it is.  Midomi is similar, but not as accurate.  However Midomi will let 
you sing or hum into it, and it's fairly decent about figuring it out.

Sportacular - summarized sports scores in an easy to read format, 
categorized by sport.  I'm not a huge sports fan, but it's a great fun 
app.  You can drill down to individual games and it provides real time 
updates.  The pro ESPN app will even stream video of events - I'm not that 
big of a sports junkie, but I have friends who are and swear by that app.

Weatherbug Pro - for 1$ you get a pretty comprehensive weather application 
with full maps, ability to save favorite locations and more.  The built in 
weather app isn't bad, but Weatherbug pro takes it to the next level.

Pandora - personal radio station in my pocket.  Works (amazingly well) 
over 3G and edge even.  Love pandora...

Yelp! - Reviews of restaurants and more.  Even better, it's location aware 
so if I am on travel and I want to find a restaurant near me, in just two 
taps I have all the restaurants around me with reviews.  It's incredibly 
handy.  There are others like Local Pics and CityGuide that do similar 
functionality, but I always seem to come back to Yelp!

1Password - syncs with the desktop version.  Encrypted password storage. 
Beats post it notes :)

Car Care - I'm kind of OCD on recording my milage and tracking maintenance 
- great app with a simple interface.  A pretty clever import/export engine 
too.  I was able to load in five years of back records with one email.

Google Maps - built into the iPhone, incredibly useful.  Traffic 
information is very handy - different purpose from GPS.  Location aware - 
tap a button and orients to where you are.  Great for finding stuff around 
you on the go.

Remote - Apple provide app that allows you to control iTunes or an Apple 
TV remotely.  I have an airport express and an Apple TV in different rooms 
in my house from my main computer with iTunes - I can have music on 
throughout my house and control it with my iPhone from wherever I am. 
Sonos on steroids and at a fraction of the price.

Kiwi - iPhone front end for Wikipedia - makes Wikipedia very readable and 
navigable on the iPhone display.  Use it constantly.

Clinometer - a level on steroids.  I got it as a novelty but it really is 
useful and more accurate then I expected.  When the phone is laying flat, 
it turns into a multi-axis bubble level - leveled up my pin ball machine 
in a couple minutes with it :)  Again not something you use constantly, 
but very handy when you need it.

GasBag - location aware app that shows you gas stations around you and 
current prices - great for a quick check if you need to fill up.  Will be 
using it this weekend while on the road to avoid those expensive gas 
stations clustered around freeway exits.

Trails - GSP breadcrumb app - use it while taking photo's to geotag 
photo's at the end of the day.  Saved me from buying a couple hundred 
dollar geotagging device.  Am really hoping that 3.0 allows for some 
background apps - this is one I would desperately like to run in the 
background constantly when I need to.  Runners and cyclers will use it to 
track their training.  All kinds of uses.

Speaking of photography, while I'm not huge birder, Birdpost is a nice 
location aware app for tracking and reporting bird sightings.

Lookup and FreePing - network test tools with a nice GUI wrapper that deal 
nicely with the "cramped screen and input" as you put it.  Great for 
testing systems from "outside" without having to be outside :)

DC Metro - I can never keep the trains straight - I just don't ride metro 
often enough.  For $1 I always have the Metro map with me, and real time 
information on train arrival times.  Handy when I have to play tour guide.

Skype - Don't think I need to explain this one :)   Sucks it's Wifi only, 
but I can't say I'm surprised.

Various reference materials - dictionary, thesaurus, ebooks, etc.  Again 
it's nice to be carrying just one device.

Light - simple App that lets you set the screen to a color and control the 
intensity.  Great to use as a flash light, but I also use it as a fill 
light for photography.  Again I downloaded it as a gimmick and discovered 
it's more useful then you first think.

AmbiScience Pure Sleep - more then just a white noise generator - I tried 
this on a whim one night and discovered I really like it.  I do sleep 
better and feel more refreshed.  Liked it so much I changed out my clock 
radio to one that has an iPod/iPhone dock.  Much less expensive then the 
dedicated units, and far more flexible - there are multiple apps that do 
similar things, if I get tired of this one for a buck or two I can change 
it out.

And then there are the games.  Lot's of casual games that are great for 
taking a break or passing some time - like waiting for your carpool 
partner that says they will be right down and then 15 minutes later....

Nevermind the contacts, email, calendar, photo's and phone stuff you would 
normally expect from a phone. 

The biggest surprise to me is just how much the location aware stuff makes 
a difference.  Google Maps and Yelp! for example take on a whole new 
dimension when they are in your pocket and know where you are.  I've 
gotten so used to the location aware stuff that I catch myself looking for 
the "Where am I" or "Around Me" buttons when I'm on my laptop :)

And that's just a small slice of what's out there.  I'm constantly 
discovering new stuff - it's amazing what people are thinking of.  With 
hardware support coming in the 3.0 SDK, things will get even more 
interesting.

> there was nothing about the iPhone g2 that compelled me to pick it.

Maybe some of the above that I described or what some of the other guys 
have told you about the iPhone will give you some more to ponder.

> Guess so, cause we will anyway <grin> I also think WM6 has a 
> way to go, and was hoping Android would be more than it showed 
> up to be on the T-Mobile phone 

I'm glad to be done with WM.  MS is hopelessly behind - they should really 
consider buying Palm and relegating WM to corporate use and eventually 
transitioning away from it.  I too was a little disappointed in Adroid.  I 
was hoping it would spur more out of Apple - and I think it has.  I don't 
think Apple would have opened up the Dock connector as quickly, for 
example, if they didn't feel Android and the Pre breathing down their 
necks.  I also don't think they would have been talking about background 
apps in the 3.0 timeframe without either of those phones pushing them.

So for those reasons, if nothing else, I hope Android and the Pre "make 
it".  Android I'm not so worried about (I don't think Google is going 
anywhere), but the Pre is in serious trouble due mainly to Palm's poor 
financial footing :(

> now, if they'd only figure out a way to add a usb connected 
> real keyboard and video out to a monitor, *then* it'd really be
> a platform 

I do miss having a mini-USB connection on the iPhone - just for charging, 
if nothing else.  But like I said, iPod dock connectors are almost as 
universal these days so it's only a minor quibble.  And I'm right with you 
on the keyboard.  With Apple opening up the Dock connector with the 3.0 
SDK, I'm sure there will be foldable keyboards like we had for the 
original Palm PDA's - that would be ideal for taking notes in meetings and 
such.  A real keyboard (physical connection, built in stand - NOT 
bluetooth to suck more battery life) is something I'm eagerly awaiting. 
There's a little video out in 2.2 - I'm sure they will beef it up in 3.0 
with the expanded dock access.

> But that's just my opinion ... 

Indeed :)  No worries.  Choice and competition is a good thing.

Eric Eskam
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