I think the proper term is a "brick", but rock will do. -----Original Message----- From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 6:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IPhone 3g <Nightmare>
Ok, enough. I am the person that started this never-ending thread. A couple of you have offered suggestions, which I appreciate. Unfortunately, the device is still off-line. Today is day #4. For this reason, I am offering a bounty to the first person who can assist me, and get this rock to work. A case of beer to the first man who resolves The problem, a bouquet of flowers if a woman wins. You can reach me at (909) 946-2032 between 8:00am to 5:00pm PST, Or via email @ [email protected] Considering my BlackBerry was up and running in 3 minutes, I am less than thrilled with Apple's new toy. Good Luck! Mark -----Original Message----- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 6:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IPhone 3g <Nightmare> I've got about 20 iPhones here, they haven't caused any additional calls to Help Desk, or any additional support on my part. The hardest part of allowing them to access email was setting up the documentation to give to the user to show them how to connect. They must have approval from their manager before we allow the access. All users have mobile & OWA access disabled until we receive a request and managers approval to allow it. This has saved us about $2000 in BB licensing alone, not to mention the cost of the devices that the user is spending. I'm kinda ambivient about the iPhones, they seem really cool, and have lots of apps, but it's not something I personally must have. I may upgrade to one when my personal cell phone has an upgrade available, or I might just get a BB for myself. Well see about that sometime in Nov. On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Rod Trent <[email protected]> wrote: Sync personal phones with corporate data... Never thought I'd hear that phrase. From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IPhone 3g <Nightmare> I asked if anyone on the Exchange list had any experience with the sybase solution, no responses. I'm looking at evaluating it since it will allow us to segment and control corporate data away from personal data. It works with WinMo too.. This will allow us to allow our associates to use their personal phones and sync to corporate data. The one scary thing about sybase is it costs more than my BB infrastructure on a per user basis. I'll hopefully get approval to proceed with my study/POC. ________________________________ From: Andy Ognenoff [[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IPhone 3g <Nightmare> I'm curious how these 2 products will change things for iPhone in the enterprise: http://good.com/corp/int_products.php?id=good_mobile_control_iphone&pid= good_for_enterprise http://www.sybase.com/products/mobileenterprise/iphone - Andy O. >From: Rod Trent [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:01 PM >To: NT System Admin Issues >Subject: RE: IPhone 3g <Nightmare> > >Security is the primary issue. There's no security on P2P connections >through Bluetooth right now, i.e., great for sharing songs with people in >range, but bad for "losing" company data in the same data stream. > >And, as mentioned previously, valid, signed certificates is another >security >area. > >iPhones do not multitask, i.e.,. you can only run one app at a time. > >iPhones are chained to iTunes. iTunes is a consumer-oriented service. Who >really wants your users loading up "shake the baby" on business devices? > >There's currently no way to manage an iPhone inside the Enterprise, from >app >installations to remote wipe for stolen units. > >Others... > >From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:44 PM >To: NT System Admin Issues >Subject: RE: IPhone 3g <Nightmare> > >Sorry if this question seems like flame bait, but exactly which features >does the iPhone need to have to be considered ready for the enterprise? > >Andrew Greene >IS Technician / Webmaster >City of Anderson > >From: Rod Trent [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:27 PM >To: NT System Admin Issues >Subject: RE: IPhone 3g <Nightmare> > >The iPhone is still not a business unit. They are trying, and while the OS >is at 3.0, the business side is still in beta, IMO. Apple has never >catered >to businesses - no matter how much folks have tried to integrate their >products. The iPhone is the first device where Apple has been severely >tasked by the customer to produce something that can work in both consumer >and business sectors. They'll get it eventually, but 3.0 still does not >provide everything. In addition, AT&T has stated publicly that there are >certain features of the iPhone 3Gs and the 3.0 update that they either a) >will still not support for a while, and b) may cost extra in the future. > >Watch your phone bill. > >From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:52 PM >To: NT System Admin Issues >Subject: RE: IPhone 3g <Nightmare> > >I see, so really your just touting the iPhone's lack of security features? >;-) >Just blindly accepting a self-signed cert is really not a good security >practice, even if it does make life a little simpler. >That said, not using a trusted cert on OWA/Autodiscover truly is a matter >of >getting what you pay for. >TVK > >From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:19 PM >To: NT System Admin Issues >Subject: RE: IPhone 3g <Nightmare> > >Self Signed Certs. Nothing 'really amiss' here. Just have to import the >CA >Cert. > >________________________________________ >From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:19 PM >To: NT System Admin Issues >Subject: RE: IPhone 3g <Nightmare> >If setting up a Windows Phone (the new name for Windows Mobile from what I >hear) takes more than entering a URL, a user name and a password then >you've >got something amiss in your systems. Should take around 45 seconds, >depending on the length of those fields and the speed of your thumbs. >TVK > >From: Steve Ens [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:58 AM >To: NT System Admin Issues >Subject: Re: IPhone 3g <Nightmare> > >That is ironic. I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it). So >those iPhones must be wicked fast. ;-) >On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze <[email protected]> wrote: >Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server >than >our Windows Mobile Phones. > >________________________________________ >From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM > >To: NT System Admin Issues >Subject: RE: IPhone 3g <Nightmare> >Only if you have the app for it. > >From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM >To: NT System Admin Issues >Subject: Re: IPhone 3g <Nightmare> > >I thought the iPhone can cure cancer. >On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross <[email protected]> >wrote: > > >Hello All. > >The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will >be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from >our >Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me >links to various docs, which I found useless. > >Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an >Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the >friendly >side of our SonicWall firewall. > >I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup >process. > >Thanks a ton! > >Mark A. Ross >(909) 946-2032 > > >~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ -- Sherry Abercrombie "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Arthur C. 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