The problem is that the Palm Pre was working by telling iTunes that it is an iPod. I think it seems reasonable that Apple would not take kindly to another company's device representing itself that way. It doesn't really rise to the level of copyright infringement, but it certainly is ethically suspect. As for why Apple has a bit of an issue with Palm is twofold, I think. The first is that Palm has been soaking off Apple engineers. The second is that Apple believes, and I think rightly so, that major parts of WebOS is ripping off iPhone tech, which they have patented the heck out of. Palm is basically daring Apple to sue them. As for the "open" comments about Apple. Apple absolutely does play nicely with open standards; you should do some research. That isn't to say that Apple hasn't taken some open source software, modified it and kept the changes to themselves. Of course they have, but nobody has ever accused them of doing anything not allowed by the license agreement. Does Apple do open source and contribute back out? Ask Palm. They are using WebKit in the Pre.
________________________________ From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: FW: Palm confirms that iTunes update kills Pre sync Well, there was the issue that the Pre would only sync DRM free music. Is iTunes all DRM free now? I don't buy from iTunes often enough to know, so there are issues of users interatcing with iTunes in a way that's not consistent with iTunes users typical experience. Apple is and always has been about controlling the user's experience as much as possible. What open stuff? Open standards, not so much. Open software, sure if they can use it and not have to give back, it's great. You may think it's a hasty, bitter decision, but it was one that is entirely consistent with Apple's behavior. It goes to show you that the "former Apple peeps" at Palm shouldn've known better. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Sam Cayze <[email protected]> wrote: Point Taken. Now this: Why wouldn't Apple play nicely, and enjoy profits from all the Pre users that are now using the iTunes Store to purchase Music, Movies, etc...? Jobs always talks up this 'Open' stuff... Maybe they are losing their way? I think it was a hasty, bitter decision since their peeps are now working for Palm. ________________________________ From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: FW: Palm confirms that iTunes update kills Pre sync I'm going to call your statement horse hockey. On their May 28th press release Palm wrote, "Palm media sync is a feature of webOS that synchronizes seamlessly with iTunes, giving you a simple and easy way to transfer DRM-free music, photos and videos to your Palm Pre." That was the first sentence of the 2nd paragraph, where the first paragraph was a description of the demonstration and demonstrators at the All Things Digital conference. (Link:http://investor.palm.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=386488) So, Palm did think iTunes integration was a big deal, since it was the first thing they mentioned about the phone in that release. If they had some former Apple peeps, then those peeps should've known that this hole in iTunes would be quickly closed by Apple, and probably had a good idea of how quickly it could be closed. I don't think I'm stretching my logic too far, either. So the situation we can deduce, is Palm's marketing department creating buzz around a feature that everyone at Palm knew (or should've known) would be squashed. I'm actually suprised it took Apple as long as it did to close the hole. If my description of some reasonable suppositions isn't an example of a company who lost its way, I don't know what is. -Jonathan On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Sam Cayze <[email protected]> wrote: Palm never really advertised this as a feature, it was just a little bonus. Palm has a few former Apple peeps working for them. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: FW: Palm confirms that iTunes update kills Pre sync Someone said yesterday on this list that Palm lost its way a long time ago. This is just one more example. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:35 AM, John Cook<[email protected]> wrote: > This just in...... > > John W. 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