Sean Martin <[email protected]> wrote on 08/28/2009 03:35:50 PM:

> > AH! DFS moved back into the realm of possible (for us). Without
> > replication, I don't need as the full amount of storage at each site,
> > enough to support *all* users; I'd really only need enough storage to
> > support the number of users who can physically fit into the site ... 
(plus
> > some as overflow, of course).
>  
> That is correct.

W00t! One in a row, for me. LOL

> > So I would need to make sure all my site info is correct and 
up-to-date
>  
> That would definitely help. 

Two! A streak ...

> > So what happens in this case:
>  
> > User at Server_A/Site_A moves to Site_B. I don't know about this move.
> > When the user logs in, DFS tries to map his profile to a server in his
> > site. But there is no server in Site_B with a copy of his files (yet).
> > Does he get an error?
>  
> You keep using the term "profile" but since you stated you don't use
> roaming profiles, I'm assuming this is just a personal directory (my
> documents, etc.). 

Right. Sorry; I mean "home folder", as specified on the "Profile" tab of 
the properties of a user. We connect this to drive "Z:" in AD.

> If that's the case, I would imagine some type of 
> error would be presented during login indicating the target wasn't 
> accessible. 
>  
> > Does he just (transparently) connect long-distance back to his files 
at
> > Site_A?
>  
> No, I believe that mapping would simply not exist during the session.

That would need testing; I seem to recall that if Windows can't find it's 
"My Documents" (which we re-direct to the user's home folder), it can just 
sort of hang and never log in. And if there's no home folder to find "My 
Documents" ...

But I'm old; it's Friday; and I might be mis-remembering ...

> > When I do the backup/restore of his files to Site_B, he should Just 
Work.
> > (He'd have to be logged out while I did the backup/restore, right?)
>  
> Yes it would require he logoff/logon after the data has been restored.

OK! Definitely ammunition for a pilot project, after we finally get 2003 
AD in place.

Thanks everybody. That was a whole lotta signal for a Friday. LOL

>  
> - Sean

> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:03 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sean Martin <[email protected]> wrote on 08/28/2009 02:31:17 PM:
> 
> > You can certainly implement DFS without replication. You would
> > simply need to follow your same procedures of backup/restore,
> > copying, etc. when a user moves from one site to another. It would
> > just eliminate the need for modifying the user's profile path. Keep
> > in mind that you'll need to modify your folder redirection GPO with
> > the DFS path as well.

> AH! DFS moved back into the realm of possible (for us). Without
> replication, I don't need as the full amount of storage at each site,
> enough to support *all* users; I'd really only need enough storage to
> support the number of users who can physically fit into the site ... 
(plus
> some as overflow, of course).
> 
> > When a user accesses a DFS Namespace, DFS will determine which
> > member of that namespace to direct the connection to based on the
> > site they're logging in from.

> So I would need to make sure all my site info is correct and up-to-date
> ...
> 
> So what happens in this case:
> 
> User at Server_A/Site_A moves to Site_B. I don't know about this move.
> When the user logs in, DFS tries to map his profile to a server in his
> site. But there is no server in Site_B with a copy of his files (yet).
> 
> Does he get an error?
> Does he just (transparently) connect long-distance back to his files at
> Site_A?
> When I do the backup/restore of his files to Site_B, he should Just 
Work.
> (He'd have to be logged out while I did the backup/restore, right?)
> 
> > If you decided to use replication, DFS-R in Windows 2003 has pretty
> > good compression capabilities, as well as the ability to only
> > replicate changes to files. I had 600GB of user profiles/home
> > directories replicating between 4 servers and I routinely had
> > a reduction rate of 97% or greater. Example: If over a certain
> > period of time, 1TB of data was modified and needed to replicate,
> > DFS-R's compression and replication would only transfer 31GB.

> Good to know. Thanks!
> 
> >
> > Sean
> 
> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:43 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Jon Harris <[email protected]> wrote on 08/28/2009 12:29:07 PM:
> >
> > > I don't know but I think DFS in 2000 was pretty poorly done, 2003
> > > was better and I hear the 2008 fixed a lot of things so he may have
> > > issues with DFS.  That is assuming he is still running all of his
> > > file servers on 2000, he does not say.
> >
> > 4 file servers are Win2003; one is still Win2000. That one is 
scheduled
> to
> > be upgraded to Win2003 in a couple months.
> >
> > We are also going to be going to 2003 AD later this year. (and 2008 AD
> > next year)
> >
> > So at some soon-to-be furute point, I will have 5 file servers, all at
> > 2003 AD, scattered about, all in a 2003 AD. If I do implement DFS, it
> > would be after all that.
> >
> > I guess I'm still unclear about the replication aspects of DFS. I get
> the
> > idea that I wouldn't need (num of servers x amount of each server
> storage)
> > at each site, but I am struggling to understand then how I am cutting
> out
> > bandwidth. I can see where I might be reducing it, but:
> >
> > If a person moves from Server #1 to Server #2, and I am using DFS, how
> > (what method occurs) does that user not be accessing his/her files 
over
> > the WAN link, if I am not replicating all their files to Server #2? I
> > suppose that is my fundamental knowledge block, at the moment.
> >
> >
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