Jumping in late here but let me agree the time service is crap. Here is how I 
overcame it.

I use our core Cisco router for the authoritative time source. It does a good 
job of keeping it's clock current. I do not sync it outside I do it manually if 
I ever notice a time difference. Since starting to use it I have only had to do 
this once or twice in the last few years and that was due to power outages. You 
do have to config it to be a time server but it is easy. The PDC emulator 
points to it for its time source. GPO tells everyone else to use the standard 
windows hierarchy.

Here is the key for us;  I set a scheduled task for every server, dc's and 
member servers alike to stop and start the time service twice a day. Once at 6 
am and once at 6 pm. That keeps them right on the money.

Since doing that I have not had any issues for several years.


From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 11:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Why is Windows Time service crap?

To follow up on what Ben and Bob have mentioned, you only want/need the DC with 
the PDCe role to get its time externally, and the other systems will get the 
time from that one.

What I do then, is to run a script that sets the time server for all other 
systems to be blank.  (Actually, I let 2 DCs sync outside)

The time for all my systems remains in sync (my logging script checks this 
every morning).

I have not used an external NTP application for the better part of this decade.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Free, Bob <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:

[1] You configure the PDCe of the forest root to become the authoritative time 
source for your forest. There is a (fairly) strict hierarchy that is 
automagically maintained with the other DCs peering up to that one, DCs in 
child domains peering to their respective PDCe,  member servers and 
workstations peering up to their respective DCs. "You" don't need to "point" 
anything to anything other than the root PDCe. I'd respectfully submit that 
there is something wrong in your configuration if things are that bad.



Configure the Windows Time service on the PDC emulator ( 
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=91969)



[2]Common issues I've seen are misconfiguration, firewall/network issues and 
users who have the user right to set system time.



Configure a client computer for automatic domain time synchronization ( 
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=91376)



I would have agreed with your sentiment in NT and actually ran the W32port of 
NTP on my DCs back than but for the vast majority of the >20K machines in my 
main forest w23time is sufficient. It has improved with every version of 
windows and the documentation is an order of magnitude better than it used to 
be. The biggest offset among my DCs today is +0.0128225s. We do have special 
use cases where we employ other methods but they are definitely the exception 
rather than the rule where a particular client needs millisecond accuracy..



Windows Time Service Technical Reference 
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc773061(WS.10).aspx<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc773061%28WS.10%29.aspx>



I would start at the top and get all the DCs properly synched  and work your 
way down from there. What version of AD are you running?





From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 7:37 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Why is Windows Time service crap?



Greetings!

I have workstations and servers in my domain whose time is all over the place!

Two servers I manually sync'd with a domain controller less than 24 hours ago 
are now once again 3 minutes behind.

Workstations are up to 5 minutes one way or the other.

I know this keeps coming up here, but again, please...
1. With multiple domain controllers, does one pick one of them, sync to an 
outside time source, then somehow point the other DCs to this DC?  If so, then 
one puts in the name of the selected DC in the registry settings for time 
services?  OR, does one make sure all the DCs point to the same external NTP 
server?

2. Why do servers and workstations drift off, time-wise?  How to stop this?
--
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