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2009/10/18 Sean Martin <[email protected]>

> I dont think that's necessarily true. If you were to do a cost-benefit
> analysis between traditional 15k drives and SSDs (or EFDs), you might be
> surprised what you find.
>
> Take an Exchange server that experiences an incredible amount of read IO at
> the information store. You might need 10 traditional spindles to meet
> demand, but only 2 SSDs. If the 15k drives cost $1000 a piece, and the SSDs
> cost $5000 a piece, it might make more sense to go the SSD route.  Obviously
> storage capacity needs to be taken into consideration as well.
>
> - Sean
>
> On Oct 17, 2009, at 3:48 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
> We need prices to fall significantly to reap the benefits of the sizes we
> need.
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> ------------------------------
> *From: * Andrew Levicki <[email protected]>
> *Date: *Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:12:41 +0100
> *To: *NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]>
> *Subject: *Re: "Why RAID 5 stops working in 2009 | Storage Bits |
> ZDNet.com"
>
> In my opinion, we're on the cusp of seeing solid state storage becoming the
> norm and we will be able to put hard drives out to pasture or use them more
> for backups than tapes.
> Although we have much faster hard disks nowadays than ever, it's amazing
> that we are still at the behest of such a mechanical device for our mission
> / business critical data. Solid state FTW.
>
> Regards,
>
> Andrew
>
> 2009/10/17 Angus Scott-Fleming < <[email protected]>[email protected]>
>
>> Scaremongering, or legitimate things to worry about?  Lots of the
>> "Talkback"
>> comments are that ZDNet is over the top these days, but it seems to me
>> he's got
>> some legitimate points.
>>
>> ------- Included Stuff Follows -------
>> Why RAID 5 stops working in 2009 | Storage Bits | <http://ZDNet.com>
>> ZDNet.com
>>
>>  Disks fail
>> ÿÿ While disks are incredibly reliable devices, they do fail. Our best
>> data -
>> ÿÿ from CMU and Google - finds that over 3% of drives fail each year in
>> the
>> ÿ   first three years of drive life, and then failure rates start rising
>> fast.
>>
>> ÿ   With 7 brand new disks, you have ~20% chance of seeing a disk failure
>> each
>> ÿ   year. Factor in the rising failure rate with age and over 4 years you
>> are
>> ÿÿ almost certain to see a disk failure during the life of those disks.
>>
>> ÿÿ But yoÿ´re protected by RAID 5, right? Not in 2009.
>>
>> ÿ Reads fail
>> ÿ   SATA drives are commonly specified with an unrecoverable read error
>> rate
>> ÿÿ ÿ (URE) of 10^14. Which means that once every 100,000,000,000,000 bits,
>> the
>> ÿ   disk will very politely tell you that, so sorry, but I really, truly
>> caÿ´t
>> ÿ   read that sector back to you.
>>
>> ÿ   One hundred trillion bits is about 12 terabytes. Sound like a lot? Not
>> in
>> ÿÿ 2009.
>>
>>  Disk capacities double
>> ÿÿ Disk drive capacities double every 18-24 months. We have 1 TB drives
>> now,
>> ÿÿ ÿ and in 2009 wÿ´ll have 2 TB drives.
>>
>> ÿÿ ÿ With a 7 drive RAID 5 disk failure, yÿÿ´ll have 6 remaining 2 TB
>> drives.
>> ÿÿ As the RAID controller is busily reading through those 6 disks to
>> ÿÿ reconstruct the data from the failed drive, it is almost certain it
>> will
>> ÿ   see an URE.
>>
>> ÿ   So the read fails. And when that happens, you are one unhappy camper.
>> The
>> ÿÿ message "we cÿÿ´t read this RAID volume" travels up the chain of
>> command
>> ÿÿ ÿ until an error message is presented on the screen. 12 TB of your
>> carefully
>> ÿÿ ÿ protected - you thought! - data is gone. Oh, you didÿ´t back it up to
>> ÿÿ tape? Bummer!
>>
>> --------- Included Stuff Ends ---------
>> More here with links: <http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=162>
>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=162
>>
>>
>> --
>> Angus Scott-Fleming
>> GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
>> 1-520-290-5038
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