Until someone makes a new dictionary with the first letter of each word in
the first sentence of famous literary works.


On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Ken Schaefer <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Iwtbot,i  (It was the best of times, i). As long as the phrase is
> memorable, the user should be able to type the password in (and after a few
> days should be quick).
>
> Something such as the above is not going to be brute-forced in any
> meaningful way.
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> Cheers
> Ken
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> *From:* Ben Schorr [[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 4 November 2009 6:19 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Password change rules - never?
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>   But a 7-character passphrase isn’t very secure by itself.  I’d much
> rather have something longer.  Even something like:
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> One 2 Three 4 Five
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> That’s pretty decent.  Mixed case, with spaces and numbers.  Easy to
> remember and 19 characters long. Not likely to end up on a Post-It.
>
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>
> Ben M. Schorr
> Chief Executive Officer
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> *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2009 9:23 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
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> *Subject:* Re: Password change rules - never?
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> first letter only of a 7 word phrase?
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> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Richard Stovall <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hilarious.  Though Caesare may have pushed Shook out of the tree.
> It's been a while since he showed up.
>
> On a topical note, I completely agree.  I encourage people to use
> long, grammatical passphrases whenever possible.  In truth, however,
> they tend to only do it for things they don't have to type very often
> such as WPA keys, etc.  For everyday use they always revert to
> something short unless there is a policy in place that forces them to
> do otherwise.
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> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Ben Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:38 AM, David Lum <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Thoughts, comments? Oh and do read the comments.
> >
> >  I've sometimes wondered if we wouldn't be better off enforcing (1) a
> > very long minimum password length and (2) complexity checking that
> > only filters stupid sequences.  Thus, encouraging users to use
> > non-trivial passphrases rather than passwords.
> >
> >        Shook and Caesare sitting in a tree
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> > is going to be both hard to guess and easy to remember, while
> >
> >        S5p$3xQ!
> >
> > is only hard to guess, and thus much more likely to be on a Post-It note.
> >
> > -- Ben
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