That might be another apples-to-squirrels comparison.

There is likely always a non-zero cost for making a long distance call. 

There are likely many scenarios where 100% of bandwidth isn't utilized,
and allowing additional traffic in those cases results in zero
additional cost.

That having been said, most companies I've worked for allow some
discretion for making calls, even LD ones. They also recognize that I
may spend most of my lunch break working an issue and yet not pay me any
more.

-sc

PS- Interestingly, Google is of the opinion that hiring good people, and
then giving them much personal freedom and perks, tends to work well for
their productivity requirements. They might be an extreme example, but
it's a model I tend to like.

-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: INTERNET SLOWNESS

 so does bringing in a CD collection to play in the cup holder , but
that's
not the point ... The point is they're hijacking corporate bandwidth
resources 

( wonder what the policies are on making personal long distance calls
from
the company telephones ) 



Erik Goldoff
IT  Consultant
Systems, Networks, & Security 


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: INTERNET SLOWNESS

In fairness, internet radio allows access to content that might not
currently be available on the airwaves. 

Just an observation. 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Erik Goldoff" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:54:31
To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]>
Subject: RE: INTERNET SLOWNESS

 
What amazes me is that everyone chooses to piggyback on an expensive
enterprise data network infrastructure and risk the flow of critical
business data to *simulate* an inexpensive radio .  

It becomes much more an issue on T1 and similar connections when the
critical data is flowing at a high rate.  Even moreso now for those
using
VOIP on common bandwidth.  If bandwidth is already precious, then
streaming
can have a negative effect for the business.  If bandwidth is abundant,
then
it is much, much less an issue.


Erik Goldoff
IT  Consultant
Systems, Networks, & Security 


-----Original Message-----
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: INTERNET SLOWNESS

Steve, it isn't the percentage of users that counts. It's the BANDWIDTH!
A T1 line is more impacted than a T3. We have around 40 users, and if I
had
a T3, they could all probably stream without impacting the bandwidth,
but if
just 10% stream on a T1, it's noticible. We're a not-for-profit, so we
can't
afford a T3 line. Yet, if the entire office choose to make a phone call
on
our AT&T lines, it goes unnoticed.
Likewise, if everyone plugs in a radio or some other electric device,
that
too will go unnoticed. Finally, in my house, if my wife turns on the
washing
machine while I'm taking a shower, I notice a drop in pressure along
with a
lower temperature. It's all about the BANDWIDTH!
LOL!
 
Murray


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