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On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Steven M. Caesare <[email protected]>wrote:

> It is outsourcing.
>
> I don't agree it's the same model that ASP's tried 10 years ago, or that
> it's just SaaS of 5 years ago.
>
> -sc
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:07 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Cloud computing... your opinions
>
> I do agree that cloud computing is just another form of outsourcing--the
> same general rules apply to choosing a cloud computing provider as to
> choosing ANY outsourced service.
>
> As to the notion that one data breach affects only one customer, that's
> not so in the information age. At the speed of light, the world can know
> about that breach--and the service provider risks losing any number of
> current and potential customers.
>
>
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:51 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Cloud computing... your opinions
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:55 AM, John Hornbuckle
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > There's no reason it has to be undefined and
> > unverifiable, though. A good cloud service provider
> > can provide this.
>
>  They should be able to; they rarely do, IME.  Most businesses have a
> general mentality of not exposing information about their own
> operations.  Some of that is fear of making it easier for copy-cats;
> some of it is a desire to sweep dirt under the rug.  At the same time,
> in order for an outside contractor[1] to be as defined and verifiable
> as doing it in-house, they have to be *completely* transparent.  So
> there's an inherent conflict.
>
> [1] = In most use cases[2], "cloud computing" is just the latest
> euphemism for "outside contractor".  We've also seen this called
> "SaaS", "ASP", "outsourcing", etc.
>
> [2] = There are exceptions.  They are a small minority.
>
> > As someone else mentioned, reputable service providers
> > are just as concerned about the protection of their
> > customers' data as their customers are.
>
>  I highly doubt this.  For a contractor, a single-customer data
> breach means you loose a customer.  For the business, that same data
> breach can mean anything up to going-out-of-business.  Sure, the
> provider has a motivation to do well, but not the same motivation.
>
>  It's like the joke about bacon and eggs.  The chicken is not as
> invested as the pig.
>
> -- Ben
>

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