Sorry I hit the send button to soon. Your biggest mistake and one he is counting on in my opinion is use of intelligent and executives to define a person that will make the decisions. How many of us have had to deal with executives that only use one metric to make decisions? How many of us have wondered how these executives got to their positions with so little evidence of intelligence seen in their decisions? I have been lucky to work with truly intelligent executives. Most of the ones I have had to deal with though are not all that intelligent. Kurt is right though the definition of who is actually an IT person needs to be better defined. I would argue that a DBA is not a true IT person. Any more than the person who enters the data into the database.
Jon On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Jon Harris <[email protected]> wrote: > Your biggest mistake and one he is counting on in my opinion is use of > intellegent and executives to define a person that will make the decisions. > How many of us have had to deal with executives that only use one metric to > make decisions? How many of us have wondered how these executives got to > their positions with so little evidence of intellegence seen in their > decisions? > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Well, it's a little more complicated than just Ya, or +1. >> >> I think he needs to refine his thoughts a bit more. The definition he >> comes up with is a bit vague, and needs more discussion, as do some of >> the examples he uses. In particular, some will wonder *why* it's not >> an IT job for a DBA to "pull financial reports" - he needs to clarify >> and defend that and other examples, to sharpen the discussion for >> those who aren't particularly IT-competent. >> >> Also, he needs to highlight that the responsibility of producing >> corporate IT policy works in both directions. The policies need to >> server the mission of the organization, but they also need to be >> informed by the best judgment of IT, both about security and about >> technical possibilities. >> >> Plus, he needs a better copy editor. Some of his locutions are >> cringe-inducing - for instance, he uses 'hedge' when he probably means >> 'hinge' >> >> Like I said - no answers, just the beginning of a discussion, and >> worthy of handing off to clueful execs. >> >> Kurt >> >> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 17:53, Steven Peck <[email protected]> wrote: >> > It's hard to have a conversation when everyone agrees. You have a >> > mutual 'Ya!' fest instead. So... >> > >> > >> > Ya! >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I think this might prove an interesting conversation... >> >> >> >> >> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9141609/Opinion_The_unspoken_truth_about_why_your_IT_sucks?taxonomyId=14&pageNumber=1 >> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
