If you the switch that your firewall plugs into (on the trusted side)
can span/mirror the firewall port, that will be just what you want.

Kurt

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 13:19, John Aldrich <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Thanks, guys… I just might do that. ‘Course I have to find a machine first…. 
> ‘specially one that can handle the load. I thought I might put it in between 
> our firewall and the network…… or maybe I’ll find a small hub and put it in 
> there that way….
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> From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 3:37 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: IDS appliance
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> +1
>
> Get the OSS stuff in there first, and get a handle on what your needs 
> actually are, then when you find you need something with more features, 
> you'll be able to articulate and evaluate that more effectively.
>
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> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 07:29, John Aldrich <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Guys, I was talking to my boss this morning about how we need an IDS 
> > appliance to help catch malware as it comes in from the web or as it tries 
> > to “phone home.” Now up until yesterday I though an IDS was just good for 
> > catching hackers trying to get through our firewall or something like that. 
> > I’m not that knowledgeable about this sort of thing. How exactly does an 
> > IDS appliance work?
> >
> >
>
> It depends on the appliance. However, the general theory is that it
> watches the bit stream, and sends alerts when it sees suspicious
> traffic. Often they also trend traffic and do other spiffy things.
>
> Before committing to a commercial product, I'd try the free OSS stuff.
>
> In particular, OSSIM is a very interesting package, though it's more
> than just an IDS. It's got an installer that puts Linux on a box and
> installs snort, ntop, nagios and a bunch of other software, and wraps
> it all up in a pretty web interface.
>
> I'm trying to find the time (and a spare PC) to dive into it.
>
> You can install it on one machine (with several NICs), or use it to
> install a set of sensors at various points in your network that talk
> to a central server that aggregates it.
>
> The critical things are 1) to get enough box to handle the load, 2) to
> place the sensor(s) at points in your network where you're most likely
> to see attacks, 3) dial down the alerts so that they fit your
> environment. They tend to be really noisy - lots of alerts - until you
> get them tuned to only look for things that are relevant to your
> environment. For instance, you don't want to see alerts on traffic
> that looks like an attack on an Oracle server if you don't have Oracle
> in your org.
>
> And, an IPS is basically an IDS that can operate your firewall on the
> fly. They can be as dangerous as combining tequila and handguns, if
> you're not extra careful.
>
> Kurt
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