This capability for a user to purge an item in DIR goes away in Exchange 2010 with "Dumpster 2.0".
Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 12:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange brick level backup software Options / soultion? Users can permanently delete items by deleting them from the Recover Deleted Items GUI. A user who is trying to cover up something might do that, and if the user is trying to cover up something, stands to reason you might be asked to produce evidence at some point, which will require recovery from a backup. Carl From: paul d [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 9:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange brick level backup software Options / soultion? If you have the reg hack "dumpster always on," you can still recover those emails that were 'hard-deleted.' ________________________________ From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:16:00 -0500 Subject: RE: Exchange brick level backup software Options / soultion? Talk to me about item 5... I'm using Exchange 12.5. In my backup job, I have an option I can check to enable "Granular Recovery Technology." GRT lets me restore individual messages and mailboxes. You're saying that when I check that option, I'm no longer doing a "normal IS backup" and need, in essence, to create a second backup job in which GRT isn't enabled? We can live with item 1. Our Exchange backups take a few hours, but in our environment that's acceptable (we're not an overnight operation here, so long backups at night are fine). But you've piqued my curiosity; I may disable GRT and see how big a difference that makes in the time. On item 2, can't users permanently delete items from their Deleted Items folder, even it retention is enabled? I thought retention forced those items to be permanently deleted after a period of time, but I didn't know if also forced them to NOT be permanently deleted for that same period. But I'm not an Exchange wiz by any means; I'm a generalist, not a specialist. :-) John From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 8:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange brick level backup software Options / soultion? 1] it takes a long time - typically 2 or 3 times longer than a full Information Store backup 2] if you have properly configured and know how to use deleted item retention and deleted mailbox retention, BLB provides you with no added benefits 3] it makes mailbox auditing worthless 4] you lose visibility to "last accessed by" for the mailbox 5] if you are doing a BLB INSTEAD OF a normal IS backup (usually happens because of item [1]), it will give you a false sense of security - a BLB does NOT replace a full IS backup That being said - there are times and places and environments where it makes sense. Very few and far between. But they exist. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 8:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange brick level backup software Options / soultion? Is there a downside to doing brick-level backups, though? We're doing this with BackupExec, and I see only potential benefits to it-no drawbacks. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us<http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us> From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 6:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange brick level backup software Options / soultion? Oh, don't do Brick Level backups. :-( Try Ed's method instead: http://www.exchangefaq.org/faq/Exchange-5.5/The-Ed-Crowley-Never-Restore-Method/sectionID/1009 Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer ______________________________________________ Roland Schorr & Tower www.rolandschorr.com<http://www.rolandschorr.com> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> From: justino garcia [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 13:37 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Exchange brick level backup software Options / soultion? Exchange brick level backup software, Anything beside NT-backup, has scheduling, can backup to NAS or DISKS, and that is Simple, and under 500USD? 30 mailboxes, about 60 gig store, needs to be backed-up daily, and restored just in case, to test, has scheduling, and how long it can retain a backup before it does a cleanup?? Any suggestions? Thanks NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records law. Most written communications to or from this entity are public records that will be disclosed to the public and the media upon request. E-mail communications may be subject to public disclosure. 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