Kevin is right, and I'll make sure the techs know.

Changing a signed document goes directly against what a signed document is 
supposed to be...


Alex


From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 12:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VIPER: NO Disclaimers in email (caused by email digital 
certificates)

Yes, all certificate vendors would present this problem to ANY disclaimer 
system.  It's not limited to Viper.

If you think about what a digital signature is doing - alerting to any change 
to a message, this makes sense.  A disclaimer is a change.  So if Viper were to 
add a disclaimer, the recipient would get a signature warning.  So the fact 
that Viper is not adding it is a working in your favor.

Honestly, I am surprised that SB told you they never heard of anyone using 
signatures.  I suspect that was really just the technicial you were dealing 
with.  I wouldn't be surprised if it were actually a feature they included (but 
the technician didn't know about).

Options:
1) tell people to use the cert only when needed (e.g. contract agreement, etc)
2) limit the certs to the small population that needs them - have them put the 
disclaimer in their normal signature file
3) integrate the certs into AD and use the transport rule as Michael suggested


Kevin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Jeff S. Gottlieb 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Kevin,

I reworded and reposted this thread (minutes ago) hoping to stimulate more 
discussion...and before knowing you replied. Thank you.

Interesting enough Sunbelt support, "never saw anyone using a email digital 
certificate"...thus could not offer a remedy.  We do not represent the defense 
department so we can live without certificates, but since we are using, and 
with issues *maybe* someone has a quick remedy.

Let's assume we were a VERY small minority and needed certificates...is this an 
issue with COMODO or all certificates in Viper?

Based on your logic (below) all certificates would present Viper users with 
this issue.

-J

From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 7:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: No Disclaimers in VIPER (caused by use of email digital 
certificates)

I have no idea of that is a Viper feature or not, but I believe that is the way 
you would want it to operate isn't it?  Otherwise, the insertion of the 
disclaimer would be modifying the email message, which would cause the 
signature to indicate tampering.




On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 3:13 AM, Jeff S. Gottlieb 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
We just closed a case with Sunbelt...disclaimers appeared in all email accounts 
except those using digital certificates. Was wondering if anyone else 
experienced the same. - Jeff

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