Great!

 

We can conclude.with a *much* better understanding of this issue and a
workaround. Thank you Kevin.

 

Alex. IMHO your tech(s) should be made aware (Ticket on this case was
#137504). As For the record, despite his lack of understanding with
certificates, he did a stand-up job (so I'm told) troubleshooting and
correcting our corrupt "Disclaimer Policy" folder issues.  This alluded our
technical expertise.and that of two other SB techs. :~) -Jeff

 

From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VIPER: NO Disclaimers in email (caused by email digital
certificates)

 

Kevin is right, and I'll make sure the techs know. 

 

Changing a signed document goes directly against what a signed document is
supposed to be...

 

 

Alex

 

 

From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 12:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VIPER: NO Disclaimers in email (caused by email digital
certificates)

 

Yes, all certificate vendors would present this problem to ANY disclaimer
system.  It's not limited to Viper.

 

If you think about what a digital signature is doing - alerting to any
change to a message, this makes sense.  A disclaimer is a change.  So if
Viper were to add a disclaimer, the recipient would get a signature warning.
So the fact that Viper is not adding it is a working in your favor.

 

Honestly, I am surprised that SB told you they never heard of anyone using
signatures.  I suspect that was really just the technicial you were dealing
with.  I wouldn't be surprised if it were actually a feature they included
(but the technician didn't know about).

 

Options:

1) tell people to use the cert only when needed (e.g. contract agreement,
etc)

2) limit the certs to the small population that needs them - have them put
the disclaimer in their normal signature file

3) integrate the certs into AD and use the transport rule as Michael
suggested

 

 

Kevin

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Jeff S. Gottlieb
<[email protected]> wrote:

Kevin,

 

I reworded and reposted this thread (minutes ago) hoping to stimulate more
discussion.and before knowing you replied. Thank you.

 

Interesting enough Sunbelt support, "never saw anyone using a email digital
certificate".thus could not offer a remedy.  We do not represent the defense
department so we can live without certificates, but since we are using, and
with issues *maybe* someone has a quick remedy.

 

Let's assume we were a VERY small minority and needed certificates.is this
an issue with COMODO or all certificates in Viper?

 

Based on your logic (below) all certificates would present Viper users with
this issue.

 

-J

 

From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 7:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: No Disclaimers in VIPER (caused by use of email digital
certificates)

 

I have no idea of that is a Viper feature or not, but I believe that is the
way you would want it to operate isn't it?  Otherwise, the insertion of the
disclaimer would be modifying the email message, which would cause the
signature to indicate tampering.

 



 

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 3:13 AM, Jeff S. Gottlieb
<[email protected]> wrote:

We just closed a case with Sunbelt.disclaimers appeared in all email
accounts except those using digital certificates. Was wondering if anyone
else experienced the same. - Jeff

 

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