Haven't heard anything about Avaya being mentioned, but then again, I'm not on the Network/Telecoms team. The first we'll know is if we land in some morning and the phones have been changed.
On a similar lack of information point, we've just found out that the IT testing team is being outsourced to India. A team of over 30 will no longer exist shortly, most are being re-deployed to other non-IT departments and non-IT positions, but some are not so lucky. Regards Tony Patton Desktop Operations Cavan Ext 8078 Direct Dial 049 435 2878 email: [email protected] From: "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle" <[email protected]> To: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected]> Date: 12/03/2010 18:18 Subject: RE: Pros & Cons of Converged Networks (Voice / Data) Aw man, that stinks. From the little bit of experience I had in working with the Nortel hardware, they seemed to make a really solid product - granted I only worked with their TDM systems, but still... Too bad the company didn't survive on its own. How have you been impacted by he Avaya takeover (or have you?) Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA [email protected] www.eaglemds.com -----Original Message----- From: tony patton [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 1:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Pros & Cons of Converged Networks (Voice / Data) We're a Nortel shop here, with IP Phone 2004's on all the desks apart from a handful of IP Phone 1140e's. They can't be upgraded. Regards Tony Patton Desktop Operations Cavan Ext 8078 Direct Dial 049 435 2878 email: [email protected] From: "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle" <[email protected]> To: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected]> Date: 12/03/2010 17:30 Subject: RE: Pros & Cons of Converged Networks (Voice / Data) Well, that depends on the phones you're using. Mitel has a GigE option for their phones without having to replace the phone itself: http://www.mitel.com/DocController?documentId=19404 We've been running converged for 4 years without issue, and I have some imaging apps that are very network intensive, connected through our Mitel phones. Avaya offers an adapter as well: http://www.phonelady.com/700416985n.html I didn't find such on Cisco's site, but I would be surprised if they didn't have such. Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA [email protected] www.eaglemds.com -----Original Message----- From: tony patton [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 11:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Pros & Cons of Converged Networks (Voice / Data) It would be as simple as replacing the phones, but it's nowhere near as cheap as running a second cable. It's amazing how many companies go with the cheaper option at the start only to spend x times the cost to do it right in the future. Regards Tony Patton Desktop Operations Cavan Ext 8078 Direct Dial 049 435 2878 email: [email protected] From: "Andrew S. Baker" <[email protected]> To: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected]> Date: 12/03/2010 15:41 Subject: Re: Pros & Cons of Converged Networks (Voice / Data) And this is precisely one of the problems that we have. The number of lines they will agree to run is constrained because of the desire to go converged. That means when the needs grow (such as backups of each desktop, which is a planned option for the Macintosh systems on the network), there will be "fun". -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:35 AM, tony patton < [email protected]> wrote: The only problem I have, is unless the phones support gigabit passthru, the desktop will only get 100Mb connection to the network. Only really becomes an issue when transferring large files, but still an issue. Regards Tony Patton Desktop Operations Cavan Ext 8078 Direct Dial 049 435 2878 email: [email protected] From: "Glen Johnson" <[email protected]> To: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected]> Date: 12/03/2010 15:33 Subject: RE: Pros & Cons of Converged Networks (Voice / Data) I wouldn?t lobby against it. Just set up proper QOS and you should be good to go. Unless you?ve got a very good reason not to converge, doing so will make your life easier. Fewer switches and cables to maintain. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Pros & Cons of Converged Networks (Voice / Data) I am not a huge fan of converged networks, although I will acknowledge the cost savings in many instances. 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