Thanks for the various perspectives, everyone. Have a great weekend. -ASB: http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker Sent from my Verizon Smartphone
-----Original Message----- From: Jon Harris <[email protected]> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:10:16 To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]> Subject: Re: Pros & Cons of Converged Networks (Voice / Data) Agreed just document as you usually do that his preferred is not the best solution give him reasons similar to either mine or Erik Goldoff have stated and let it lie. At this point equipment is set and it is wiring that should be considered that is where this is caught. Jon On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote: > Fully understand the bind you're in. Small companies tend to wing it, > and don't often understand the tradeoffs in the good/fast/cheap > choice, or at least have a strong preference for the latter two, > without caring what benefits the first two bring. > > Kurt > > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:19, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]> wrote: > > Those are good questions, for which I will have to look for the answers. > > In any event, the decision maker in question is not concerned with how > hard > > it is for me to manage the environment. In his mind, that is a > theoretical > > problem that does not offset his cost savings. > > So, these well-intentioned logical exercises will prove fruitless. > > Generally, I don't like complexity in networking, although I am willing > to > > take complexity when there is a significant benefit, such as with > > server/application virtualization. OTOH, for a relatively small cost > > (when you look at the size of our org: 60 employees, growing to 90 or 100 > > this year), one can keep the benefits of VoIP and still avoid running it > on > > the same wire, minimizing other configuration issues. This is important > to > > me based on IT staffing constraints. > > -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Questions, for which I don't have answers: > >> > >> If putting the phone between the PC and the network, does that mask > >> the MAC address for the PC? > >> > >> Does it kill your ability to do WoL? > >> > >> How else might it interfere with your network management? > >> > >> Kurt > >> > >> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 07:25, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > I am not a huge fan of converged networks, although I will acknowledge > >> > the > >> > cost savings in many instances. > >> > I have a situation where we were planning to keep the data traffic and > >> > voice > >> > traffic separate, and all of a sudden (11th hour) that changed. > >> > *If* you were going to lobby against converging a network for 30-50 > >> > people > >> > on a floor that is being built out, what justification would you use? > >> > -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
