Since you mention the "distance from the equipment", I have some input on that. With AT&T DSL, their fastest speed is 6Mbps, and that's known as "Elite" speed. I had that installed when it became available and my actual thruput per speedtesting was around 4.4. Then it slowed to 3.6 after several months. I called to complain and they sent a tech out to trouble shoot. His response was that I was nearly 9000 feet from the "central office" and that was too far and it should never have been installed. He told me he was going to "adjust" my speed down to the next speed which was the "Pro" speed or 3 Mbps. He didn't ask, he just went and did it. He came back in my house and we checked the speed and it was now 2.5, yet I had been getting 3.5, so logic says I should have been able to get at least 3.0. I inquired as to an alternative and he told me to call the Uverse dept. They told me that if I got Uverse 6.0, I would probably get 5.6 to 5.8 speed. I think I may have mentioned that they wouldn't install the modem on the second floor of my house where the DSL modem is located, Then I called into AT&T customer service who told me that the tech was correct, I was too far from the central office for the Elite speed. Now I'm pissed off because I was getting higher speed and for only $5 per month more. Well a week or so later, I had to talk to AT&T on another subject, and of course at the end of the conversation, the customer service lady goes into sales mode. She told me that I could have the Elite speed for just $5 more per month. I told her that a Uverse person told me I was too far away. Then she says she will speed me up to Elite speed but it will take 48 hours. Two days later, I'm back at 3.5 Mbps. Now, a question for anyone who may have the knowledge. If I'm unable to get the 6.0 speed on DSL, how come I can get it if I get Uverse. Yes, I know that they use fibre optic cable to the street curb, but then it's just standard cable going to my house. So, can anyone explain the difference to me?
MMF ________________________________ From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 1:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband I'm sure the telco had multiple reasons for going bankrupt, but losing customers to the cable company was probably a factor. Once the cable company started offering Internet, I contacted the telco before ditching DSL. I asked them if they planned on lowering their prices since I could now get much faster access for the same price from the cable company. They said no, and I immediately switched. I'm sure I wasn't the only one. The telco had spent a fortune building little communication stations all over the county so that they'd have the infrastructure for DSL (since users can't be more than whatever distance from that equipment for DSL to work). From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 2:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband And the telco went bankrupt? I'm in AT&T and they are rolling out Uverse. As I understand it, since we have Comcast along with AT&T, FIOS will not be allowed in at this time! MMF ________________________________ From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 12:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband The telco-the ones who refused to lower their prices despite the change to the competitive landscape. From: Jon Harris [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: National broadband Which one the telco or the cable company? Most people will not change just because they can. There has to be a difference greater than the pain to change will cause. How many people like to notify all of their contants that their email address has changed? I see it all the time but most will not change unless the pain to stay gets to be more than the pain to change. Jon On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 9:50 AM, John Hornbuckle <[email protected]> wrote: Talking about no-brainers... In my area, DSL used to be the only broadband option. Eventually, the cable company started offering faster access for the same price. Do you think the local telco lowered their DSL rates, though? Nope. I guess they figured folks would keep paying the same price for slower speeds. They recently filed for bankruptcy protection. -----Original Message----- From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband Well, just checked and my ISP has 6 Mbit internet available for the same price I'm paying for 3 Mbit. No brainer here... I just ordered an upgrade. :-) -----Original Message----- From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband Geez! I'd be more than happy with 10-15Mbit speed, or even a "true" 6 Mbit. I don't have that option, AFAIK, with my ISP. -----Original Message----- From: hg [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband I always wonder the same thing. I even mentioned to two family members that there was an even lower unpublished tier available that would save then $20/month and after they changed to it they mentioned there was no noticeable difference. Always on, reasonably low latency and a couple Mb speed works for a lot of folks. -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband I agree John. My big activities at home are playing MMOs, for the most part. My Comcast connection at 6-12 Mb is just fine for that. I'm not running a business out of my home or anything. What are people doing at home, for "personal" reasons, that would need 50 - 100 Mbps down, and 50ish Mbps up? >>> John Hornbuckle <[email protected]> 3/17/2010 11:08 AM >>> I feel like such a neoluddite... I get 10-15Mbps at home via cable modem, and honestly that's plenty fast for 99% of what I do. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us <http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us/> From: Jay Dale [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband >From what I gathered from this site, they just want to release the capping the ISP's do on the available bandwidth for the customers, not necessarily allow Internet for all citizens. ISP's truly have a large amount of bandwidth available to consumers, yet to control pricing and overhead they cap speeds and gradually release them on an accounting-time-period-basis. I have AT&T at my home, and the highest Mbps down available is 24Mbps, but compared to a year ago, its twice as fast. So it just happened to be available now instead of last year? If I were to pay $65/month for 100Mbps/50Mbps, I would gladly do it. So long as it's available. Knowing it's available yet being restricted is what is irritating. Jay Dale I.T. Manager, 3GiG Mobile: 713.299.2541 Email: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. From: Jacob [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband I could run a cable up to you from our OC3... ;-) From: Jeff Johnson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband Though I would love to see the US and all broadband providers give us better services, my concern is at what cost? If I look at my home service, 24 Mbps down and 1.5 up, is running $65. That is pretty cheap, but still a LONG way from 100/50 Mbps. I am really curious what the government feels is "affordable access"? It would seem that only businesses would pay more than $100/month for service, but a business would require some type of SLA. At my office, I COULD get 100 Mbps service, but have no idea what the price would be. Considering 3 Mbps service is costing me $530 for a business line, I would not even want to consider the price. Jeff Johnson Systems Administrator 714-773-2600 Office 714-773-6351 Fax [cid:[email protected]] From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: National broadband Thoughts, comments? http://www.broadband.gov/ David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records law. Most written communications to or from this entity are public records that will be disclosed to the public and the media upon request. 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