How is whitelisting or blacklisting going to help? Answer: it's not. The 
problem is thread pre-emption and storing values in user-mode memory space 
where it can be altered (assuming you can get the timing right).

But, if your AV was any good, it would detect the problem "on access"

Cheers
Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, 11 May 2010 9:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Life just keeps getting better....

You can also read the blurb on San's ISC page also, some vendors say its 
important, and of course Mcafee discredits it, not that suprises me. But it is 
an attack vector to consider. Controling the execution of code on your system 
is the difference between keeping your systems clean and getting 0wned. Whether 
you look at HIPS/Whitelisting/Blacklisting, otherwise, you are going to have to 
have more on your systems than just AV to combat todays threat landscape. 

Sincerely,
EZ

Edward Ziots
CISSP,MCSA,MCP+I,Security +,Network +,CCA Network Engineer Lifespan Organization
401-639-3505
[email protected]

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Scott [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 9:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Life just keeps getting better....

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:40 AM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote:
> How to bypass almost all AV software
>
>
http://www.matousec.com/info/articles/khobe-8.0-earthquake-for-windows-d
esktop-security-software.php

  Sophos's response:

http://www.sophos.com/blogs/duck/g/2010/05/11/khobe-vulnerability-earth-
shaker/

  They're an AV vendor and thus not a disinterested party, so take it as you 
like.

-- Ben


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