LastHouseOnTheLeft On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 13:01, Andy Shook <[email protected]> wrote: > 13_Lollipop_Lane ? :) > > Shook > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:59 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: script SSID for wireless configs > > If drive by intruders see either WPA or WPA2 they will most likely keep going. > > If they see WEP they might stick around after the 30 seconds it takes > to crack it, and if it's open then they're golden. > > I'd be more worried about the 13-year old neighbor boy who is running > Linux brute-forcing your network than someone outside of your > neighborhood. > > That "unkown" SSID is more tempting than not. > > I use my street address as my SSID, FWIW. > > Kurt > > > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:47, Murray Freeman <[email protected]> wrote: >> Thanks Micheal, that clears it up somewhat. It sounds to me that with the >> number of wifi's in my neighborhood, I don't have to be very concerned >> because the rest of the neighborhood are broadcasting and several use their >> family name. I'm going to assume that they would tend to draw the hackers >> more than my "unknown" wifi, and most of them are WPA whereas I'm WPA2. >> >> Thanks again. >> >> >> Murray >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 2:34 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: script SSID for wireless configs >> >> Technically speaking, its not that it isnt "broadcasted". It's not >> "advertised" in the packets. This is a good short summary: >> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_set_%28802.11_network%29#Security_of_Broadcasting_SSID >> >> -- >> ME2 >> >> >> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Murray Freeman <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> So you are telling me that there are tools that can see something that >>> isn't being broadcast? I'm having trouble with that concept. If I tturn off >>> the power altogether, can these"tools" see my wifi? If the broadcast is shut >>> off, how is it broadcasting? Finally, if these tools can see my SSID, can >>> they also see the unencrypted password? I can tell you that Inssider tells >>> me a lot about the wifi's it picks up including it's mac address along with >>> the manufacturer of the wifi, and the channel in use. But my SSID displays >>> as unknown. Either wifi is completely unsecure or it isn't. Please explain! >>> >>> >>> Murray >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 1:23 PM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: Re: script SSID for wireless configs >>> >>> Its false security. Mainly because anyone capable of hacking your network >>> can see your SSID with their toolset (its still out there in the ether). >>> >>> Obscurity != Security >>> >>> And with that, let the soapboxing begin... >>> >>> -- >>> ME2 >>> >>> >>> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Murray Freeman <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I've been "lurking" on this topic, and I have a couple of questions. >>>> First, I have a wifi at home and I have the radio broadcast turned off. I'm >>>> using INSSIDER software to look around my neighborhood from time to time. >>>> My >>>> SSID shows up as "unknown". Obviously I have no problem connecting and if >>>> someone who has never connected previously comes over, I help them by >>>> telling them the SSID and password to connect. The next time they come >>>> over, >>>> they connect automatically. So, my questions. First, even if you know my >>>> SSID, you need to know my password or you're not going to connect. I figure >>>> that without the SSID, it is even more difficult for a stranger to connect. >>>> Oh, I'm using WPA2 security. I know I could use MAC filtering, but I'm >>>> comfortable that I'm secure enough. Can you guys explain to me how having >>>> the radio broadcast turned off makes the security lessened? >>>> >>>> >>>> Murray >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 12:01 PM >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>> Subject: RE: script SSID for wireless configs >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> No real input as their decisions are already made, but like I said, they >>>> are depending solely on non-broadcast of the SSID as their ‘security’, they >>>> do have other proper measures in place. >>>> >>>> Erik Goldoff >>>> >>>> IT Consultant >>>> >>>> Systems, Networks, & Security >>>> >>>> ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' >>>> >>>> From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 11:55 AM >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>> Subject: RE: script SSID for wireless configs >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The post was offered as a general comment, not a response to your >>>> question. That happens around here a lot. As IT consultant, do you not >>>> have any capacity to advise the agency on security matters? Or keep them >>>> from shooting themselves in the foot? I guess not... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Carl >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 11:50 AM >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>> Subject: RE: script SSID for wireless configs >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank you but that was not the question. To the agency, this is one >>>> layer of security, in addition to WPA, etc. The question is whether the >>>> wireless config could be scripted. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Erik Goldoff >>>> >>>> IT Consultant >>>> >>>> Systems, Networks, & Security >>>> >>>> ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
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