External Auditors rarely have to deal with internal politics and have only
limited say in internal running of the business unless you are in one the
the HIPPA/SOX/etc type of environments.

Jon

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:52 PM, James Hill <[email protected]>wrote:

>  Interestingly some of the changes I have made were recently given the big
> tick of approval from external Auditors.
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> *From:* Erik Goldoff [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Friday, 18 June 2010 10:23 PM
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> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Handling Developers
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> 1.       There’s the way that makes the developers’ life the easiest
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> 2.       There’s the way that makes the environment most secure
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> 3.       There’s the way provides an optimum balance between the first two
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> I fought this battle at a previous job, where the ENTIRE IT Department had
> Domain Admin privileges, not just local to their machine.  The developers
> perceived that they needed to be domain admins to properly execute their
> job.  The VP of IT was previously the Application Development Manager, so
> guess which way he was leaning …
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> It was a long, hard battle, with precious few victories.  PCI compliance
> helped me to gain some footing, but in the end, I was seen as counter
> productive to the developers’ goals, and obviously unhappy there.  Did I
> mention this was a **previous** employer ?
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> *Erik Goldoff***
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> *IT  Consultant*
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> *Systems, Networks, & Security *
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> '  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
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> *From:* James Hill [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 18, 2010 8:05 AM
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> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Handling Developers
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> Thanks Andrew.
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> I have considered your approaches in the past.  I think my frustrations
> have clouded my thoughts somewhat.
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> At the moment they have the ability to run as and elevation as they know
> the local admin password.  But of course complain about having to type it
> in.
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> One argument was that with their previous and larger employer they did what
> they wished.  Hence why I am after as much opinion from other professionals
> that I can get.
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