+1.
Even if it's just putting ESXi on each server's bare metal and building the
server OS on top of that, your recoverability goes WAY up with no additional
infrastructure costs.

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Charlie Kaiser
[email protected]
Kingman, AZ
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 8:57 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Server Disk Imaging
> 
> Please, I have 10 servers virtualized.  I didn't spend 
> anymore on the two physical servers I have than the 10 
> servers I would've had to purchase without a virtual 
> environment.  In fact, if I had to estimate it, I estimate I 
> spent at least 50% less.  Probably closer to 70%, but 50% is 
> a safe, easy estimate.
>  
> Most servers aren't doing anything than maing heat and using 
> electricity while they're on.  Unless you're doing some 
> intensive database stuff, hard to justify staying physical nowadays.
> 
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> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:48 AM, HELP_PC <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
>       Storagecraft is ,IMO, the best and if you find a good 
> reseller is not so expensive. You may also buy the It edition 
> for a yearly fee and you are able to image unlimited number 
> of machines.
>       Virtualization for 10 servers requires a very expensive 
> hardware if you are not simply experimenting!
>        
>       Regards
>        
>       GuidoElia
>       HELPPC
>        
> 
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> 
>       Da: Bob Hartung [mailto:[email protected]] 
>       Inviato: lunedì 12 luglio 2010 15.31
>       A: NT System Admin Issues
>       Oggetto: Server Disk Imaging
>       
>       
>       I've been looking for a disk imaging solution for the 
> servers on our network. They currently are all Dell PowerEdge 
> servers running Windows 2003. My main goal is to be able to 
> restore a server quickly in the event of a hardware failure, 
> like a RAID card failure that hoses the hard drives.
>       
>       We use Arcserve for doing nightly backups and as a file 
> by file solution, it's fine. For disaster recovery, it leaves 
> a lot to be desired. It essentially does a reinstall of the 
> operating system and then restores from back. As such, it's 
> not very fast.
>       
>       I've tried a number of disk imaging software packages. 
> They all can create an image of the server system drive while 
> the server is running and that's great. However, what seems 
> to always be a weak point is restoring from a boot disk.
>       
>       All the packages have a utility to create a bootable CD 
> but they generally have a problem either accessing the RAID 
> volume or the LAN adapter or both. Whether they use Windows 
> PXE, Linux or DOS, drivers seem to be a problem. It would 
> seem logical that these software packages would have a 
> utility to copy the existing drivers off the system and 
> incorporate them into the BootDisk but none do that I've found.
>       
>       The only package I've tried so far that seems to work 
> with the couple of servers I've been testing on is Acronis 
> Backup and Recovery for Servers. I'd use this if it weren't 
> so expensive at roughly $1,000 per server.
>       
>       Anyone using a disk imaging solution they'd care to recommend?
>       
>       Thanks.
>       
> 
>       ----------------------
>       
>       Bob Hartung
>       Wisco Industries, Inc.
>       736 Janesville St.
>       Oregon, WI 53575
>       Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
>       Fax: (608) 835-7399
>       e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com <http://wiscoind.com/>  
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