Yea also had some issues with deployment of vipre on a ternimal server. and that agents must reboot pc, was also an issue with vipre.
Also vipre should have a to autodetect what folder not to scan on a server, like a sql or exchange server. Overall vipre takes less Memory so in that respect it is good. and vipre support been okay, better then others. Hopefully vipre 5.0 will be much improved. I hope vipre improves on MSP who want to host vipre, *using a one server to many different companies* On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Jon Harris <[email protected]> wrote: > Sarcasm on/* > > Anything? You actually think Symantec is better or the same? > > /* Sarcasm off > > Jon > > On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> +100 >> >> >> >> If only more of us had the luxury of being able to be as diligent as you >> have been, Jeff. >> >> >> >> Sadly, we had to turn down Vipre as well earlier this year. We ended up >> going with Trend Micro, and we’ve been pleased thus far (we moved away from >> McCrapfee, so really anything would be better). We didn’t consider Sophos, >> as we really didn’t have time to look at more than a couple of options. >> >> >> >> We’ve been running GFI MailEssentials for YEARS, and haven’t looked back. >> GFI is a great company to work with, and their spam filtering application is >> solid. It will be truly interesting to see what the Sunbelt/GFI >> merger/acquisition will bring to the table for people like us. >> >> >> >> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE >> Technology Coordinator >> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA* >> *[email protected]* >> *www.eaglemds.com >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:54 PM >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> *Subject:* Re: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both) >> >> >> >> Well done on the evaluation, Jeff. >> >> >> >> I expect that it will be helpful to many, including Sunbelt. >> >> >> >> *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) <http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker> >> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...* >> * * >> >> Signature powered by WiseStamp <http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Jeff S. Gottlieb < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> We are in an SMB environment of roughly 60 servers and 1000 hosts, >> including Server 2003, 2008, SBS2003, SBS2008, XP Pro SP3, Windows 7, and >> Vista workstations. Sophos Endpoint Security along with PureMessaging, and >> Vipre Enterprise Premium along with Vipre Email Security are being put to >> the test head-to-head. >> >> >> >> We are staunch fans of Sunbelt Software. Our experiences with Vipre Email >> Security (much improved over Ninja) has been great over the years. For over >> 10-years we have placed our trust in Trend Micro, something that has >> deteriorated slowly over the past 24-months. In any event, we are hoping >> that our published comparisons will meet objectivity, and help to give >> reassurance >> to future Vipre users regardless of the decisions we ultimately made. >> >> >> >> The Sunbelt *'NT System Admin Issues'* forum has been a great help, >> dating back to April, more specifically… >> >> >> >> 4/01/2010 Subject: Enterprise Anti-Virus, [email protected] >> >> 4/21/2010 Subject: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise, [email protected] >> >> 5/06/2010 Subject: NOD32 Antivirus, [email protected] >> >> 5/09/2010 Subject: Life just keeps getting better...., >> [email protected] >> >> 7/29/2010 Subject: Vipre effectiveness & false positives, >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> *1) Installation / Deployment* >> >> Server installs both went smooth. In deployment Sophos had few if any >> issues. Viper deployment to server required countless exclusions (painfully >> so)… in fact when our server crashed, we were told that a few exclusions >> were missing (Agh!). Viper deployment to host on two systems came with MANY >> surprises. The Vipre agent loaded a “NDIS IM” element in the TCPIP stack, >> causing CISCO (IPSec) clients to connect… oddly not allowing us to remote >> TS, Dameware, and other remote applications. SonicWall VPN clients remained >> unaffected. Vipre even caused slowness, freezing during printing, >> multi-tasking, and issues with Adobe Acrobat. Some of these issues we just >> gave up on attempting to resolve and disabled the firewall entirely. When a >> MSP firm cannot remote access…this is serious!! We couldn’t get support soon >> enough… and unfortunately cases remain open 4-5 days after the fact. Vipre >> left our accounting department, using a PSA software (ConnectWise), locked >> out for an entire day. >> >> >> >> *2) Post Installation* >> >> Sophos agent with firewall was documented as utilizing up to 150+ MB of >> RAM (enormous)… we were told, “…the price you pay for good protection”. We >> were not comforted, despite this fact the users never complained about >> slower speeds. Vipre utilized a fraction of this, maybe 7 MB… albeit given >> the deployment issues (above) we remain unimpressed by any benefit there >> might be. Sophos comes along with definitions updated hourly, Vipre (so we >> are told) is heading in this direction too. Vipre currently is defaulted to >> update every 3-hours, and that default can be changed (…the value??). >> >> >> >> *3) 24-hour Enterprise support* >> >> Vipre Enterprise technicians we found were skilled, sadly they are >> scantily available on weekend (evenings). >> >> Sophos Endpoint Security we found were equally skilled and **always** >> available. Despite not having a “Premium” support agreement, we found >> Sophos enthusiastic when it came to remote access (LogMeIn). If (in the rare >> occasion) Vipre was asked to remote, remote was either unavailable or they >> were flat out reluctant. Vipre on several occasions seemed overwhelmed… >> Sophos **never** gave us that feeling. >> >> >> >> *4) Additional Items* >> >> Sophos PureMessaging (SPAM filter) catches SPAM well (notice we didn’t say >> unsolicited advertisements). If you differentiate (most do) between the two >> you will *NOT* enjoy PureMessaging. Additionally with PureMessaging each >> account receives email called “spam digest”, there are options to either >> Delete or Deliver. In either event chosen, this is a singular event… it >> does NOT automatically allow or block these addresses on a going forward >> basis. It’s impossible meeting the demands of users wanting NOT to receive >> Golf Digest solicitations, eBay, Amazon, LL Bean, Victoria Secrets (no >> joke!), all that legitimate stuff that gets overwhelming. Ah… then there’s >> Vipre Email Security!!! If **anything** unwanted makes it to the Inbox >> (a rare occasion), the individual users can manage without support. More >> systems like this create nearly passive income for us. >> >> >> >> Vipre has agent (not definition) updates. These agent updates *require >> reboots*… can you imagine 200 users rebooting their workstations for >> updates?? We cannot, and furthermore in the 6 long weeks we have been in >> proof-of-concept, Sophos has never needed an agent reboot… not even >> following deployment (Nice!) >> >> >> >> We invite your comments and encourage you to make the same comparisons and >> let us know your results. >> >> If we are wrong on any account… or seem less than objective, please let us >> know. We are expecting this thread will live for quite awhile… and Alex >> will have a lot to say. Turning down Vipre Enterprise (Sunbelt Software) >> hurts, especially understanding the culture of the company… the best of the >> best, “the American way”, etc. >> >> I personally wanted to see Vipre getting our stamp of approval…sadly I >> didn’t get my way this time. –Jeff >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> Any medical information contained in this electronic message is >> CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to >> view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This >> electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or >> legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) >> and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended >> recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete >> this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this >> message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on >> the information that it contains. >> >> Any medical information contained in this electronic message is >> CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to >> view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This >> electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or >> legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) >> and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended >> recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete >> this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this >> message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on >> the information that it contains. >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
