I agree that NT was a user operating system. However, the real point is that, at least as of Windows XP, a whole lot of "user" programs just plain didn't work if you logged on as a regular user. Therefore, people were trained to run with higher permissions to be able to get anything done. I can't tell you how many times I have been told by a sofware vendor, "It works fine if you log on as administrator." To get around these problems, you either have to do as suggested, or use various tools/auditing to try and figure out what was being blocked and work around it. Therefore, I don't think you can realistically compare the security model of *nix to NT. Bill Mayo
________________________________ From: James Kerr [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix I was under the impression that NT4 workstation was for users, business users and 9x was for home, and small peer to peer networks. The company I worked for at the time didn't have any 9x machines but maybe that was because they are an engineering firm. James ----- Original Message ----- From: John Aldrich <mailto:[email protected]> To: NT System Admin Issues <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 10:28 AM Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix True... but NT was not a "user" operating system. J From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 10:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix This is only one, tiny, aspect of implementing a security model (reading Windows Internals by Russinovich/Solomon is highly recommended). That said, Windows NT has had the same model since the first released version (v3.1 back in 1993) Cheers Ken From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 10:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix Basically, that users are not admins and that everything runs in "userspace" unless specifically run as an admin, including installation of software. From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 8:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix What do you understand that model to be? -sc From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 3:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix Not to start a flame war or anything, but I was under the impression that Mac OS/X was significantly *more* secure than a comparable Windows machine, due to the *nix security model? Asking for information here, trying to learn, not trying to start a Mac Vs. Windows thread (there are enough of those, that I don't need to start one! <G>) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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