I think you're trying to overcomplicate things. All I meant is that the end-user normally runs as a non-privileged user and so any application they run is going to run as a non-privileged user. Windows has had that ability since the NT days, but has it really been usable? IME, no. Most applications (other than Office) wanted to run as an admin, at least up until recent vintages of Windows.
John-AldrichPerception_2 From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix And we need to define what he means by "userspace". as that infers that his statement means he believes admin-owned processes run in. kernel space? If so, that's an incorrect understanding. -sc From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 10:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix This is only one, tiny, aspect of implementing a security model (reading Windows Internals by Russinovich/Solomon is highly recommended). That said, Windows NT has had the same model since the first released version (v3.1 back in 1993) Cheers Ken From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 10:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix Basically, that users are not admins and that everything runs in "userspace" unless specifically run as an admin, including installation of software. John-AldrichPerception_2 From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 8:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix What do you understand that model to be? -sc From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 3:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix Not to start a flame war or anything, but I was under the impression that Mac OS/X was significantly *more* secure than a comparable Windows machine, due to the *nix security model? Asking for information here, trying to learn, not trying to start a Mac Vs. Windows thread (there are enough of those, that I don't need to start one! <G>) John-AldrichPerception_2 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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