*>>**NT was never adopted as an end-user operating system, at least not by
anyone I know*

You need a larger circle of friends.


*>>** I’m just happy that Microsoft finally got with the program and stopped
letting users run as the local admin by default.*

Your frame of reference needs recalibrating.

If you're talking home users, then all OSes allow you to make a choice about
what level of rights you're going to have on an ongoing basis.

In a corporate setting, which is where the bulk of this discussion has been,
domain users are not automatically admins of any 32-bit Windows system by
default.


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On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:05 AM, John Aldrich
<[email protected]>wrote:

>  NT was never adopted as an end-user operating system, at least not by
> anyone I know. It was primarily used as a server O/S except for a few
> specialized situations. Granted, in my previous career, I did use an
> NT-based video editing workstation, but most people I know used Win9x and
> it’s successors until Microsoft finally got smart and forced everyone to
> move to an O/S with a separate admin and user workspace (started with XP,
> and improved in Vista and even more in Win7.)
>
> A “user” O/S I define as what you’d find in most workspaces… i.e. end-user
> workstations. I’m just happy that Microsoft finally got with the program and
> stopped letting users run as the local admin by default.
>
>
>
> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Perception_2]
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 10:43 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Mac and Windows mix
>
>
>
> Yes, it was NT Workstation and NT Server were separate products.
>
> I deployed NT Workstation 3.51 and NT Workstation 4.0 many times.  Was it
> missing some stuff?  USB support was the biggest around the NT 4.0 time
> frame.  But it was a solid OS and had vastly superiour stability to Win3.1
> compared to NT 3.51 or Win9x compared to NT 4.0.
>
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 10:28 AM, John Aldrich <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> True… but NT was not a “user” operating system. J
>
>
>
> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Perception_2]
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 10:27 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Mac and Windows mix
>
>
>
> This is only one, tiny, aspect of implementing a security model (reading
> Windows Internals by Russinovich/Solomon is highly recommended).
>
>
>
> That said, Windows NT has had the same model since the first released
> version (v3.1 back in 1993)
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 8 September 2010 10:13 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Mac and Windows mix
>
>
>
> Basically, that users are not admins and that everything runs in
> “userspace” unless specifically run as an admin, including installation of
> software.
>
>
>
> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Perception_2]
>
>
>
> *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 8:49 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Mac and Windows mix
>
>
>
> What do you understand that model to be?
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
> *From:* John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 07, 2010 3:15 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Mac and Windows mix
>
>
>
> Not to start a flame war or anything, but I was under the impression that
> Mac OS/X was significantly **more* *secure than a comparable Windows
> machine, due to the *nix security model? Asking for information here, trying
> to learn, not trying to start  a Mac Vs. Windows thread (there are enough of
> those, that I don’t need to start one! <G>)
>

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