How does the way applications have been written, but developers who insist on developing code with full rights, prevent you from comparing the security models of *nix and Windows?
A model is a model is a model, and the wrong permissions will break an app not prepared to deal with the wrong permissions. These are two separate issues. *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) <http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...* * * On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Mayo, Bill <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree that NT was a user operating system. However, the real point is > that, at least as of Windows XP, a whole lot of "user" programs just plain > didn't work if you logged on as a regular user. Therefore, people were > trained to run with higher permissions to be able to get anything done. I > can't tell you how many times I have been told by a sofware vendor, "It > works fine if you log on as administrator." To get around these problems, > you either have to do as suggested, or use various tools/auditing to try and > figure out what was being blocked and work around it. Therefore, I don't > think you can realistically compare the security model of *nix to NT. > > Bill Mayo > > ------------------------------ > *From:* James Kerr [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:26 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Mac and Windows mix > > I was under the impression that NT4 workstation was for users, business > users and 9x was for home, and small peer to peer networks. The company I > worked for at the time didn't have any 9x machines but maybe that was > because they are an engineering firm. > > James > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* John Aldrich <[email protected]> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 10:28 AM > *Subject:* RE: Mac and Windows mix > > True… but NT was not a “user” operating system. J > > > > [image: John-Aldrich][image: Perception_2] > > > > *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 10:27 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Mac and Windows mix > > > > This is only one, tiny, aspect of implementing a security model (reading > Windows Internals by Russinovich/Solomon is highly recommended). > > > > That said, Windows NT has had the same model since the first released > version (v3.1 back in 1993) > > > > Cheers > > Ken > > > > *From:* John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Wednesday, 8 September 2010 10:13 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Mac and Windows mix > > > > Basically, that users are not admins and that everything runs in > “userspace” unless specifically run as an admin, including installation of > software. > > > > [image: John-Aldrich][image: Perception_2] > > > > *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 8:49 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Mac and Windows mix > > > > What do you understand that model to be? > > > > -sc > > > > *From:* John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 07, 2010 3:15 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Mac and Windows mix > > > > Not to start a flame war or anything, but I was under the impression that > Mac OS/X was significantly **more* *secure than a comparable Windows > machine, due to the *nix security model? Asking for information here, trying > to learn, not trying to start a Mac Vs. Windows thread (there are enough of > those, that I don’t need to start one! <G>) > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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