I look at certs with the same view as a college degree. The majority of the content learned is not retained, but successfully completing these items does show one's ability to learn.
Ask me 10 questions that apply to the NT4 or W2k MCSE and I'll get only a few correct. J Ask me about something I learned while actually doing "work" and I'll bore you to death with details. Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Early Friday Funny... One reason I'll never claim to be an expert - the last test I took (ok it was years ago) I failed by what must have been one question, two TOPS. I can explain DNS, DHCP, GPO's, why and how they work, FSMO roles and what they are and do, blah blah blah, but I couldn't tell you where the default log file location is for IIS w/out looking it up, etc. The thing that really kills me is when I know something an MCSE doesn't, sometimes it's really basic-to-me stuff like using restricted groups in GPO's or creating a DHCP reservation, I always figure the MS certified dude should be schooling me. Dave From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 6:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Early Friday Funny... The classic debate of the value of certs or degrees. :) They don't guarantee knowledge, but they generally do show that the person who holds them was willing to invest time and money in themselves. And while there are certainly exceptions, my experience has been that on the whole the people with the certs/degrees are more knowledgeable. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Early Friday Funny... Reminds me of one LAN Admin candidate I interviewed a few years back for a senior position. His resume showed certifications out the ying-yang, MS, Cisco, A+, etc ... I normally asked how many nodes on a 27 bit subnet mask, but that stumped him, so I asked him how many nodes on a standard Class C subnet. His answer : "Between 200 and 300" OK, so technically correct, but not accurate. So I asked: " Would you accept the job with a salary between $30k and $60k to start ?" Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, & Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records law. Most written communications to or from this entity are public records that will be disclosed to the public and the media upon request. E-mail communications may be subject to public disclosure. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
