Oh, I'm a fully paid-up member of the choir on this one, and I have seen all
the benefits first hand. I just get the feeling these guys are going to be
more of a PITA than any I've worked with before.

On 30 September 2010 14:22, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

>  I just finished a two-year project at one of my clients (not full-time
> for me; but they had someone working on it full-time). We went from 64
> accounts in Domain Admins down to 4. There was much wailing and gnashing of
> teeth – but now, whenEVER something changes in AD – we have a way to find
> out who did it. Plausible deniability is gone. Shockingly (NOT), things are
> much more stable now. Fewer cooks in the kitchen is a very good thing.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
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>
>
>
> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 30, 2010 9:18 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
>
>
>
> I am raising this up with IS management, as it is unsupportable - there's
> no point in me putting a structure together that can just be pulled apart at
> will.
>
>
> There's no way around it, so I'm just going to have to trust in my own
> stubbornness to get the buy-in I need :-) Audit was going to be one of the
> hot words to throw into the debate, though. I'd be interested myself in
> seeing the results of any previous audits they've had here.
>
> On 30 September 2010 14:08, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> *>>**However, the business are adamant that every member of the support
> teams (from helpdesk upwards) will be given a Domain Admin account. Am I
> right in assuming this means that they could simply add themselves into the
> groups I am setting up, because even if I restrict these groups via an ACL,
> they could just take ownership of the group?*
>
>
>
> You might need to enlist the assistance of... dare I say it? ...  Auditors.
>
>
>
> If everyone is a domain admin, then they can all do whatsoever they want in
> the domain.
>
>
>
> Seriously, is your organization not subject to some you sort of regulatory
> compliance?  Who is your CTO/CIO?
>
>
>
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>
>  On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 7:49 AM, James Rankin <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> However, the business are adamant that every member of the support teams
> (from helpdesk upwards) will be given a Domain Admin account. Am I right in
> assuming this means that they could simply add themselves into the groups I
> am setting up, because even if I restrict these groups via an ACL, they
> could just take ownership of the group?
>
>
>
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rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
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