Amen. I have a DA account myself just so even I'm not a DA per se. I wish I 
could get it across to the SE team that they should follow suit, but nobody 
pushing them and I don't have enough clout.

"As usual, the boss of the helpdesk (and his golf buddies) think that change = 
interruptions to support"
Oh good GOD!! I swear this is how 90% of my org is - including the IS 
management! We postponed outsourcing Exchange (we've even signed the contract 
and paid money) to JANUARY because of this very thinking!! Dude, it's a WEEKEND 
CUTOVER with professionals on either side of the fence.

...this is also why SE's are reluctant to fix their own Domain Admin roles, or 
even roll out a 2008 DC, or 2008 server OS for that matter. Oh wait, that's 
just because it's change and they aren't driven to learn a new server OS.

While it's true that many times change is responsible for downtime, I'll trade 
a short amount of scheduled downtime with pros already "at the ready" over the 
potential of security risks or "there might be downtime...or not".

Dave

From: Alan Davies [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Restricting groups in Active Directory

Except for DCs ... but hopefully that can be managed with a secondary account 
for a couple of staff only! ;o)

+1000 for having under 5 DAs in any domain!  Ridiculous power trip on every 
occasion with even non-operations managers wanting to be in there as a sign of 
"seniority"!



a

________________________________
From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 30 September 2010 14:23
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Restricting groups in Active Directory
Ask why they need to be domain admins and not just have the necessary 
permissions delegated. My Service Desk guys were domain admins from the day 
they started (in some cases years) and they insisted they needed to be domain 
admins to do x,y and z.

Oddly, I was able to delegate the necessary functions and they haven't been 
domain admins for many months now. The Win2K servers was sticky since it 
doesn't have a "Remote Desktop User" group, but restricted groups helped me out 
there - they local admins on Win2K Servers boxes but not domain admins.

You can make them local admins of server w/out them being domain admins, and 
using GPO's you'll be able to track who is admin on what instead of going to 
each machine one by one.

No clue if this would help what you're fighting though....

Dave

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