I'm inclined to agree here.   This looks to be an issue beyond mere group
policy.

What does RSoP indicate for various systems?


*-ASB*
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Carl Houseman <[email protected]> wrote:

>  All things considered, you appear to have a group policy problem
> unrelated to the wireless, something easily proven by taking a problem
> machine and connecting it wired.  The info you've posted about the event
> ID's was insufficient for me to research them further.
>
>
>
> Googling the event ID description text may also be useful.  Good luck.
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 13, 2010 1:47 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless
>
>
>
> Yeah, I’ve done the force. Half a dozen times.
>
>
>
> Been to that website, too, but have come up empty in terms of resolving
> this specific issue.
>
>
>
> I’m just stumped. Oddly, the deployment worked fine on one of the machines
> in the lab—and they’re all ostensibly the same. I say ostensibly because
> clearly there’s something different between the one that worked and the ones
> that didn’t, but I have no clue what.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Carl Houseman [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 13, 2010 1:02 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless
>
>
>
> gpupdate /force
>
>
>
> Also eventid.net is your friend.
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 13, 2010 12:38 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless
>
>
>
> Gpresult /v shows something odd. Below is an edited version of the results.
> The “TCHS SMART Sync 2010 Student Computer Assignment Policy” is the policy
> that pushes down the app. But it only does so to machines that are members
> of a group called “TCHS SMART Sync 2010 Student Computers.” Now, the
> computer in question (TCHS-115-S02) **is** a member of that group, as
> confirmed by looking in ADUC. Yet gpresult says it’s not.
>
>
>
> So if the machine doesn’t know it’s a member of the group, why is it trying
> to apply the software assignment policy at all? I don’t get that.
>
>
>
> And the assignment is failing with event IDs 101, 102, and 108.
>
>
>
>
>
> Applied Group Policy Objects
>
>     -----------------------------
>
>         TCHS SMART Sync 2010 Student Computer Assignment Policy
>
>
>
>     The following GPOs were not applied because they were filtered out
>
>     -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>     The computer is a part of the following security groups
>
>     -------------------------------------------------------
>
>         BUILTIN\Administrators
>
>         Everyone
>
>         BUILTIN\Users
>
>         NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK
>
>         NT AUTHORITY\Authenticated Users
>
>         This Organization
>
>         TCHS-115-S02$
>
>         FCS Computers
>
>         TCHS Admin Policy Computers
>
>         Domain Computers
>
>         System Mandatory Level
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Carl Houseman [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 13, 2010 11:50 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless
>
>
>
> What are you using for a wireless supplicant (program that configures the
> SSID etc.)?  Windows WZC or something specific to the wireless?   Whichever
> one you are using, turn it off and try the other.
>
>
>
> Also download and install the latest wireless NIC drivers.
>
>
>
> All else being OK, generally the "trick" is to use WZC, but as some have
> indicated, sometimes the vendor utility, assuming it runs as a service,
> might be OK.  I would also disable any wired adapter that may be present.
>
>
>
> Also make sure your group policies are in effect using gpresult /v –
> especially the one about always waiting for network.
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:26 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Group Policy Problems Over Wireless
>
>
>
> Short version:
>
> *Is there a trick to improving group policy processing when accessing the
> network wirelessly?*
>
>
>
>
>
> Long version:
>
> We have a lab with machines that have Broadcom wireless NICs in them. Vista
> OS, connecting to Server 2008 R2 DC.
>
>
>
> I’m trying to deploy a piece of software to these machines via Group
> Policy. I have things setup so that if the machine is a member of a certain
> group, the software is deployed. Unfortunately, it only worked correctly on
> one of the machines—on all the rest, the software isn’t being deployed.
>
>
>
> So I connect to any of the machines that didn’t get the software, and run
> gpresult. It doesn’t show me that those machines are members of the group
> that gets the software. But I know they are; I’ve confirmed in ADUC on the
> DC. They’re just not picking up group membership.
>
>
>
> Looking at the event log for events that happen around startup, I see
> things that make me think group policy processing is trying to happen prior
> to the wireless network being initialized. Things like:
>
>
>
> Event ID 5719 (There are currently no logon servers available to service
> the logon request.)
>
> Event ID 129 (NtpClient was unable to set a domain peer to use as a time
> source because of discovery error.)
>
> Event ID 1129 (The processing of Group Policy failed because of lack of
> network connectivity to a domain controller.)
>
>
>
> Connectivity to the DC is fine once you get the [Ctrl] + [Alt] + [Del]
> window. You can log in (including as someone who has never logged into the
> machine before), ping the DC, browse to \\domain\syvol, and so on. It’s
> just that at that point, group policy processing seems to have given up. My
> machines aren’t figuring out that they’ve been added to a new group.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> John Hornbuckle
>
> MIS Department
>
> Taylor County School District
>
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
>
>
>

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